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Jane Rickards born c 1847 Worcester - this is based on census information from 1871 onwards; I have been unable to find any information re birth, but have confirmation of her name from 3 of her childrens' birth certificates.
Jane shows as 'wife' of Joseph Beard on censuses, although on the original of the 1881 census she shows as 'wife' and 'unm'!!!!
1871 census - 'visitor' at 2 Stourbridge Road, Dudley, with husband Joseph Beard; my maternal grandfather Herbert Thomas Beard was their first son and born 16th April 1872 in Dudley (I have his original birth certificate)
1881 census Jane and Joseph living High Street, Court2, Worcester, with 4 children - Herbert Thomas age 8; William Henry age 6; Clarinda Charlotte age 5; Joseph age 3.
1891 census Jane shows as widow age 44, living 7 Summer Street, Worcester; youngest child is 5, so ( Possible death for Joseph 1888 age 42 Q1 Vol 6c p.194 Worcester (not as yet confirmed))
1901 census - nothing found
1911 census living Summer Street Worcester, age 64
Possible death Jane - 1913 age 66, Q3 Vol6c p133 Worcester (as yet not confirmed)

Questions
Were Jane and Joseph actually married?
Where and when was Jane born? There has been a suggestion that maybe the surname was incorrect on birth registration as few were able to read or write so the names were recorded by the 'Registrar' based on their personal verbal interpretation, so it could have been recorded as ?Ricketts? There is a possibility here in relation to a Herbert and Martha Ricketts who did have a daughter Jane around the right time in Worcester.
Is there anyone who could check this out locally? (I live in Suffolk now) (? dudley taylor or corner shop?)

I hope this makes sense
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Ok got this Mel...will go thru and add what needs adding to Bcc

if anyone is going to Worcs could they possibly check this marriage
I think this could be the marriage and she could be a Martha Richards?
IGI
Name: Herbert Rickards
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1829
Marriage Place: Saint Martin,Worcester,Worcester,England
Spouse: Martha Rickards
FHL Film Number: 415132, 415133, 415134, 415135, 561598


and this bapt
Jane Ricketts
christening: 13 December 1846 CLAINES,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father: Herbert Ricketts
mother: Martha


not sure if DT and Cornershop are going to Worcs soon and might have a look up and see for us please :grin:

Jane is here on Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections


I was wondering if maybe she ever married....and that is why she couldn't marry Joseph Beard?
although on birth certifs it says Rickards as surname

I think that is her parents Herbert and Martha.
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I will have a look for you but it might not be today
I am very busy with other matters at the moment but I can fit it in
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Hi corner shop
That's really kind of you.... it's been such a mystery for so long; hopefully you might find something which will shed some light on the mystery of Jane Rickards :)
Kind Regards
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corner_shop wrote:I will have a look for you but it might not be today
I am very busy with other matters at the moment but I can fit it in



Thanks CS :wink:
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The marriage you require is very hard to read accurately, in particular the groom RICKETTS has been altered to RICKARDS or vice versa
I have a pdf scan on my flashdrive Would need an address to send
The translation is Worcester St Martin page 72 entry 226
Herbert RICKETTS of this parish Bachelor and Martha RICKARDS of this parish Spinster
were married by banns 13 April 1829
Wits - Benj'n LIPPITT and ? RICKETTS (Faint unreadable)

Baptism
Claines 13 Dec 1846 page 295 entry 2359
Jane daur of Herbert and Martha RICKETTS, Whit-Combes buildings, brewer
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Thanks CS I will add that in notes on Bcc at weekend.

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Is there possibly another marriage for Jane Rickards before she lives with Joseph Beard?

I know the birth certifs put her as Jane Rickards so that sort of implies she was single before Joseph
but what if she like her mother married prev a similar sounding surname

just wondered if there was a likely one for a Jane Rickards in that area. :?
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Corner shop.... Thank you, and Please can you email what you found
feeling more hopeful :)
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The pdf image has been sent to Mel
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Thanks CS

added some of this to Bcc
so going to flag and move to archived section over next few days. :grin:
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