Guest Children ?

[mumbles]

This Daniel Guest had only two sons John and Henry
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1881 Census Windmill Bank Wombourne Wolverhampton Staffs.
Daniel Guest Head 40 Nailer
Ann Guest wife 42 Nailer
Harry Guest son 16 Nailer
John Guest son 14 Nailer
Emma Guest dau 9 Scholar
Alice Guest dau 8 Scholar
All born Wombourne Staffs.

1891 Census Nailors Row Wombourne Wolverhampton Staffs.
Daniel Guest Head 46 Stone Breaker
Ann Guest wife 48
Emma Guest dau 20 Tin Worker
Alice Guest dau 17
Hannah Guest dau 10 Scholar
Herbert Guest grd.son 4mths. Scholar
Richard Tongue boarder 68 General Labourer
All born Wombourne Staffs.

1901 Census Windmill Bank Wombourne Wolverhampton Staffs.
Daniel Guest Head 63 Stone Breaker
Ann Guest wife 64
Herbert Guest grd.son 10
Maria Guest grd.dau 7
Leonard Guest grd.son 4
All born Wombourne Staffs.

1911 Census Windmill Bank Wombourne Wolverhampton Staffs.
James Rogers Head 36 (wid) Road Labourer
Married 12years, 6 children,3 living
Daniel Guest boarder 63 (wid) Stone Breaker
John Rogers son 11 Scholar
William Rogers son 5 Scholar
Herbert Guest boarder 20 Gardener Domestic
Maria Guest boarder 17
Leonard Guest boarder 14 Out of Work
Alfred Guest boarder 6 Scholar
All born Wombourne Staffs.

Herbert , Maria , Leonard are noted as Grandchildren and possibly Alfred Guest born 1905 is too

But from 1911 Census for John Guest they could not be his children
and Henry from 1911 has a full complement of children also

so whose children are they ?

[mallosa]

Not looked at this properly but just had a quick look at the 1911 Census and Daniels age has been mistranscribed, it says 68 on the image

also Herbert & Maria are down as Stepson and Stepdaughter. Leonard? could be Boarders son?

[mumbles]

Stepson & Dau. crossed out and Boarder inserted
The 68 is correct for Daniel as born in 1843

[mallosa]

Stepson & Dau. crossed out and Boarder inserted

Yes you are right Mumbles

[grangers14]

I wonder if the mother is Emma or Alice? Illegitimate children?
Jo

[BC Wench]

I’ve been thinking along the same lines as Jo.

On the 1911 census

1911 Census Windmill Bank Wombourne Wolverhampton Staffs.
James Rogers Head 36 (wid) Road Labourer
Married 12years, 6 children,3 living Married c1899
Daniel Guest boarder 63 (wid) Stone Breaker
John Rogers son 11 Scholar
William Rogers son 5 Scholar
Herbert Guest boarder/ step son 20 Gardener Domestic
Maria Guest boarder/ step dau 17
Leonard Guest boarder/ bye son 14 Out of Work Born 1897
Alfred Guest boarder 6 Scholar
All born Wombourne Staffs.

Against Herbert and Maria the words step son and step dau are crossed through and Boarder is written. Against Leonard’s name the word BYE Son is crossed through and written Boarder.

I remember my Mom years ago using the words Bye child for an illegitimate child. So, why differentiate between a step son or daughter and write Bye Son. I’m thinking that Leonard (Births Mar Qtr 1897 Leonard Guest Wolverhampton 6b 569 – Alice would have been 24yrs old) could have been Alice Guest & James Rogers child before they married (Marriages Dec 1898 Alice Guest & James Rogers Wolverhampton 6b 1123)

It’s feasible that Herbert and Maria could also be the illegitimate children of Alice Guest, as why would James Rogers (Alice’s husband) put step son and step daughter?

Births Dec 1890
Guest Herbert Wolverhampton 6b 480 – Alice would have been 17yrs old

Births Jun 1893
Guest Maria Wolverhampton 6b 601 – Alice would have been 20yrs old

I can’t see a possible marriage or death for Emma Guest (Alice’s sister.) Even if Emma did marry, why weren’t Herbert and Maria living with her?

There are some Wombourne BMDs on Ancestry, but not for these children.

???Deaths Jun 1910
ROGERS Alice 37yrs Wolverhampton 6b 280 Born: 1873

Certificates would help, but.....

[mumbles]

If we can find marriage for any of children that might give father

[Northern Lass]

still working on this mumbles?

[mumbles]

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