"Complete"Miner or Minder

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Can anyone find Joseph Miner before marriage and after
Catherine is Catherine Perkins and is on bcc

1851 Census Primrose Hill Dudley Staffs.
Richard Perkins Head 57 Labourer born West Felton Shrewsbury
Elizabeth Perkins wife 54 born Laughcholle Denbighs.
Joseph Miner son.in.law 22 Coal Miner
Catherine Miner dau 21
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Have posted marriage :-
MINDER Joseph PERKINS Catherine Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/010/228 1850 (26/8/1850)

Problem appears to be that surname changes from Miner to Minder or Mander

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Found them on 1861 and 1871 and then Joseph remarried a Mary Ann between 1871 and 1881

Possible his father is a John Miner and he has a sister Maria

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MINER Joseph BAILEY Mary A Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/006/146 1871

This ties up with 1881 Census as Bailey step.children living with them

[Jimmy]

All I can see is.

1841. Darby End, Dudley.
Josiah Minor 12. Miner.
Mariah Minor 9.

None born in county.

Can't see this one again after.

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A Joseph Miner was witness at Wedding of Maria Miner to William Hill 12/5/1856 but father is John Miner

[Jimmy]

Who was Josphs father.

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Place Dudley Staffs
Church St Andrew (Netherton)
MarriageDate 12 May 1856
Groom William HILL
Age 25 Darby Hand Bachelor Labourer
Bride Maria ErRINGTON Age 25 Windmill End Widow
GroomFather John HILL Labourer
BrideFather John MINER Nailer
WitnessOne Joseph MINER
WitnessTwo Ruth RAYBOULD
Notes Bride's father is deceased

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Bailey Family are on Bcc

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =778782766

And Mary Ann is Beddows before marriage to John Bailey

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Joseph Miner already on bcc
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =462955585

But place of birth shown as Stratford Warks.

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Freereg must be wrong on the Errington as FreeBMD has Maria Miner and so does West Midlands BMD
Church on latter is St. Andrews and Church on freereg Errington one is St. James

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That 1841 Census for Minor
actually has two more families in same house

1841 Census Darby Hand Dudley Worcs.
William Willits 45 Nailer
Mary Willits 30
Jas, Wiilits 2
Josiah Minor 12
Maria Minor 9
Jane Hutching 30 Widow
Esther Hutching 7
Sarah Hutching 6mths.

WILLETTS William MINORS Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/001/286

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Sorry that marriage is 1838 and I will post it

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I think I have found connection to Joseph Miner on bcc who married Mary Ann Beddows
Marriage info added by jan and looked up at archives by Maggie Smith
17 Sep 1871 – St James, Dudley,
By Banns
Joseph Miner (X), 41, W, Miner, of Dudley, Father John Miner (Dead), Labourer
Mary Ann Bailey (X), 30, W, of Dudley, Father John Beddall, Blacksmith
Wit : William Perkins X and Beatrice (Hucher?) X

and Joseph Miner who first married Catherine Perkins dau of Richard Perkins

William Perkins and Beatrice (Hucher /) witnesses at second marriage is possibly William Perkins and Beatrice Fletcher who married St. James Dudley 1871

William Perkins born 1852 is nephew of Catherine Perkins who married Joseph Miner so he was witness at second marriage of his uncle

1881 Census for William and Beatrice ties up with age and location for William Perkins born 1852

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6/11/1826 St. Giles Rowley
John Minor Bach.
Mary Ann Hipkiss Sp.
Witnesses ;- Richard Gaunt & Job Hipkiss

24/3/1838 St. Thomas
William Willetts father Thomas Willetts
Mary Ann Minors father Job Hipkiss
Both Widowed

[Northern Lass]

is this solved and completed now mumbles?