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ARC TBC..............marriage on ancestry

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could someone look at actual image pls and see if it is Hansom or Hamson?

For father / and her first marriage would be useful

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: William Thornton Widow Labourer
Birth Year: abt 1855
Marriage Date: 3 Aug 1896
Marriage Age: 41
Marriage Place: Handsworth, St James
Spouse: Annie Yeomans Widow
Spouse Marriage Age: 40
Father: John Thornton Labourer
Spouse's Father: Thomas Hamson Labourer
Reference Number: DRO 90/2
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Witnesses: Charles Evans/Amanda Pollard
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I think it says Harrison. The dot has left the "i" and is over the "o".
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And I just noticed that Charles Evans witnessed the marriage (x his mark) and he also witnessed that possible marriage for William Thornton to Pheobe Willetts, only there he signed in a very "schoolish" looking way.



Name: William Thornton
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1850
Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1874
Marriage Age: 24
Marriage Place: Handsworth, St James, England
Spouse: Phebe Willetts
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 25
Spouse's Father: Thomas Willetts
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We had this on the other thread


1911: 43 Billhay Street, West Bromwich
William Henry Harrison 62 Head Electric Cable Layer Alkerton, Oxfordshire
Mary Elizabeth Harrison 64 Wife Alkerton, Oxfordshire - Married 44 years - Children: 0
William Thornton 28 Nephew Single Borer Handsworth
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But there is a bit of a problem.
1901: 35 Oak Street, Smethwick, Staffs
William Thornton 45 Head Scavenger??? Hereford
Annie Thornton 45 Wife Alcester, Worc
Walter L Yeomans 19 Son Alcester
Sidney Yeomans 15 Son Steam? Hammer Man (Blacks) bAlcester
Henry Yeomans 10 Son Alcester
Frank Yeomans 10 Son Alcester
William Thornton 15 Son Bolt Worker Handsworth
Alice Thornton 12 Dau Handsworth
Cyril Thornton 3 Son Handsworth
Emily Pruce 26 Visitor
Annie Thornton 19 Visitor

1911: 64 Pope Street, Smethwick, Worc
William Thornton 58 Head Lab Married 14 years
Annie Thornton 56 Wife - children: 1/1/0
Ernest Yeomans 33 Stepson Lab
Harry Yeomans 19 Stepson Lab Single
Frank Yeomans 19 Stepson Lab Single
Cyril Thornton 13 Son

this looks like the same William ....

1911: 43 Billhay Street, West Bromwich
William Henry Harrison 62 Head Electric Cable Layer Alkerton, Oxfordshire
Mary Elizabeth Harrison 64 Wife Alkerton, Oxfordshire - Married 44 years - Children: 0
William Thornton 28 Nephew Single Borer Handsworth

Marriage 1867
HARRISON William H THORNTON Mary E Wednesbury, St Bartholomew Sandwell Register Office 32/4/272


They can't be the same William Thornton because the nephew is with them in earlier census

1901
William H Harrison 52
Mercy E Harrison 54
William Thornton 18
Sarah Barnett 33

1891
William H Harrison 45
Mary E Harrison 46
William Thornton 8
Susannah Boonett 22
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It looked like Hamson to me when I first saw it, but it could be Harrison.
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See what you think. It isn't like the "m" in Thomas
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going with harrison

so on the phebe willetts marriage is the father for Wm a John?
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No, it was blank.
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I think it's Harrison
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Ok I put it as Harrison

have we got Wm thorntons 2 marriages correct on Bcc then?
odd no father on 1st marriage :?
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Northern Lass wrote:Ok I put it as Harrison

have we got Wm thorntons 2 marriages correct on Bcc then?
odd no father on 1st marriage :?


I think John is dubious.
On the other thread Mallosa had:

1851: Birtley, Lingen, Herefordshire
George Thornton 56 Head Lab Teems Green, Shropshire
Sarah Thornton 63 Wife Stanlacy, Shropshire
Elizabeth Thornton 24 Dau Unm Birtley, Herefordshire
James Thornton 12 Son Birtley
Ann Harmer 13 Relation Covenhope, Herefordshire
George Thornton 4 Grd Son (mistranscribed as HARMER)
Mary Thornton 3 Grd Dau Birtley, Herefordshire
William Thornton 1 Grd Son Birtley, Herefordshire


Name: William Thornton
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1849
Baptism Place: Lingen,Hereford,England
Mother: Elizabeth Thornton
FHL Film Number: 1041611

Name: Mary Thornton
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 2 Apr 1848
Baptism Place: Lingen,Hereford,England
Mother: Eliza Thornton
FHL Film Number: 1041611

Name: George Thornton
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1846
Baptism Place: Lingen,Hereford,England
Mother: Elizabeth Thornton
FHL Film Number: 1041611
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See how this looks

Marriages Mar 1852
Morris John Presteigne 11b 247
Thornton Elizabeth Presteigne 11b 247

1861 census
Name: Elizabeth Morris
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Morris
Gender: Female
Where born: Lingen, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish or Township: Evenjobb
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales
John Morris 33 born Byton Herefordshore
Elizabeth Morris 34 born Lingen
George Morris 14 ditto
William Morris 16 ditto
James Morris 6 born Byton


I think Elizabeth's mother probably died and her father remarried


Name: George Thornton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1856
Registration district: Presteigne
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 341
Records on Page:
Name
Ann Harper
George Morris
Keziah Smith
George Thornton


1861 census
Name: George Thornton
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: 1800
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Kesiah Thornton
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Lingen

George Thornton 61
Kesiah Thornton 43
Sarah Ann Smith 16
Martha Smith 11
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I think that John Thorton http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family did not actually exist.
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