ARC TBC...............Emmanuel Harper -Farside adding to Bcc

[FarSide]

Nearly finished adding this lot..

Can someone do a hyperlink in Benjamin Harpers notes to Phoebe here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =459526432

[FarSide]

Peter et al,

I know I started this but looking again it may be that, alternatively, the Thomas Harper in question (bap 15/2/1795) is the one who married a Hannah Hyron in St Johns Halesowen on 23/3/1818; rather than Hannah Hill. This is consistent with being the son of Joseph Harper and Sarah Cox.



In turn, the Joseph who married Sarah Cox may be the Joseph who was bap in St John's Church on 15/4/1770 and may be the son of another Joseph who married Sarah Forest in St John's Halesowen on 5/10/1761. Joseph and Sarah Forest may have had at least a further 4 children, John (7/3/1762), Elizabeth 29/4/1764), James (5/4/1767) and Sarah (22/8/1773); all baptised in St Johns Church.

What do you think

H

And back to the beginning..
I believe the Hannah Hill is the correct marriage, first kid bapt is Ann 29 Aug 1815 and then Sarah bapt 16 Feb 1818

Maybe a lookup will solve it for sure

Thomas Harper
Hannah Hill
17 Jul 1814 Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,

Indexing Project (Batch) Number M04014-4
System Origin England-ODM

Rather than this
23 Mar 1818
Thomas Harper, otp, bach
Hannah Hyron, X, otp, spin
by JT (Asst. Min)
Wit - Benjamin Taylor & ElizabethTaylor, both signed X

[Northern Lass]

Nearly finished adding this lot..

Can someone do a hyperlink in Benjamin Harpers notes to Phoebe here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =459526432

Which Benjamin Harper? lost the plot FS on this soz.

put link from Bcc here as to which Ben Harper

and what do you want to say in Hyperlink? ...need bit of copy to add as to why we are hyperlinking.

if you think they marry and are pretty sure you can connect up and put a note in notes as to why etc and put
if anyone has any alternative info pls contact us....

then if anyone sees it and has any extra info that can help they can contact Bcc and we can delve further.

[peterd]

this phoebe

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =894802019

[peterd]

Vicar's Notes 1857 - Two Gates:-

Benjamin Harper Nailer Wife Phoebe has Betsey after Phoebe with a question mark, as if the Vicar is not sure of her Name? Children - Ellen 17, Phoebe 10, Fanny 9, Elizabeth 5, Mary Jane 1, Selina 1.

Also in household is James Weaver Chainmaker and wife Harriet.

Linell.

Vicar's Notes 1863 - Two Gates:-

Benjamin Harper Nailer Wife Phoebe - Children Phoebe 17, Fanny 14, Elizabeth Granddaughter 11, Selina 7, Deborah 5, Samuel 1.

Also Harriet Weaver in household, says she is Benjamin's Daughter her husband is away for 3 years.

Linell.

HARPER Harriet WEAVER James 1857 Oldswinford, St Mary West Midlands Dudley Register Office 003/005/437


1861 Butcher Lane, Cradley

James Weaver 27 chainmaker, Rowley Regis
Harriet Weaver 25 nailmaker, Cradley
Selina Weaver 5 Cradley
Deborah Weaver 3 Kingswiniford



1871 Lumbans Bank, Cradley

Harriet Weaver 35 nailmaker
Celenia Weaver 14 chainmaker
Debrah Weaver 10 chainmaker
Samuel Weaver 8
all born Cradley


1881; 8 Bridge Street, Cradley

Harriet Weaver 44 wid nailmaker
Deborah Weaver 23 nailmaker
Samuel Weaver 19 labourer
Benjamin Weaver 4
all born cradley


same house

1881; 8 Bridge Street, Cradley

Jesse Priest 25 chainmaker
Selina Priest 24
Louisa Priest 5
Alice Priest 2
all born Cradley

PRIEST Jesse WEAVER Selina 1875 Cradley, St Peter West Midlands Dudley Register Office 013/001/326

poss jesse priest

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =418240599

1871. Lumbans Bank, Cradley

John Priest, head, 42, Chain Maker
Ann, wife, 40, Chain Maker, Netherton
Selvey, daur, 18, Chain Maker
James, son, 17, Chaun Maker
Jesse, son, 15, Chain Maker
Jemima, daur, 13,
Alfred, son, 10,
David, son, 6,
John, son, 4,
Samuel, son, 3,
Jane, 16 months
All others born Cradley




1881. 21 Lumbans Bk, Cradley

John Priest, head, 52, Chain Maker, Cradley
Ann, wife, 50,
Alfred, son, 19, Chain maker
David, son, 16, Chain maker
John, son, 14 errand boy
Samuel, son, 12
Joseph Danks, nephew, 6
All others born Netherton

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1891; Bridge Street, Cradley

Jesse Priest 35 chainmaker
Selena Priest 34 chainmaker
Alice Priest 12
Annie Priest 9
Hubert Priest 4
Jesse Priest 11/12
Harriet Weavers 55 mother in law, nailmaker
all born Cradley


1901; Bridge Street, Cradley

Jesse Priest 45 iron chainmaker
Selina Priest 44 chainmaker
Annie Priest 19 labourer at bucket work
Herbert Priest 14 blacksmith at bucket work
Jesse Priest 10
Edith Priest 8
Benjamin Priest 2
Samuel Priest 6
all born Cradley


1911; Birdge Street, Cradley, Cradley Heath

Jesse Priest 55 retierd chainmaker
Selina Priest 54 ( married 35 years, 11 born, 6 living, 5 dead)
Hubert Priest 24 labourer gas work
Edith May Priest 19 labourer bucket works
Benjamin Priest 12
all born Cradley

[peterd]

Maybe a lookup will solve it for sure

Thomas Harper
Hannah Hill
17 Jul 1814 Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,

Indexing Project (Batch) Number M04014-4
System Origin England-ODM

Added by Jan 29-1-14

poss marriage

Thomas Harper
Hannah Hill
17 Jul 1814 Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,
wits Benjamin Jennings Richard Bond
By Banns-Bride & Groom marked X.Witnesses signed
see marriage info on free reg.

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1881; 8 Bridge Street, Cradley

Harriet Weaver 44 wid nailmaker
Deborah Weaver 23 nailmaker
Samuel Weaver 19 labourer
Benjamin Weaver 4
all born cradley

WEAVER Samuel BEDDARD Ann 1885 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/038/477

WEAVER Deborah WILLETTS Harry 1882 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/1/90


1891 two gates, Quarry bank

Deborah Willetts 33 wid Quarry bank
Benjamin Willetts 14 (1881 weaver) labourer
Daniel Willetts 8
Harry Willetts 6
Harriet Blanche Willetts 4
rest cradley

[FarSide]

Waiting on lookups to finish..

Also need to look at this lot too..

In turn, the Joseph who married Sarah Cox may be the Joseph who was bap in St John's Church on 15/4/1770 and may be the son of another Joseph who married Sarah Forest in St John's Halesowen on 5/10/1761. Joseph and Sarah Forest may have had at least a further 4 children, John (7/3/1762), Elizabeth 29/4/1764), James (5/4/1767) and Sarah (22/8/1773); all baptised in St Johns Church.

[FarSide]

Nearly finished adding this lot..

Can someone do a hyperlink in Benjamin Harpers notes to Phoebe here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =459526432

Which Benjamin Harper? lost the plot FS on this soz.

put link from Bcc here as to which Ben Harper

and what do you want to say in Hyperlink? ...need bit of copy to add as to why we are hyperlinking.

if you think they marry and are pretty sure you can connect up and put a note in notes as to why etc and put
if anyone has any alternative info pls contact us....

then if anyone sees it and has any extra info that can help they can contact Bcc and we can delve further.

Soz, I thought everyone knew what I was thinking..

Thanks for doing that..

[FarSide]

In turn, the Joseph who married Sarah Cox may be the Joseph who was bap in St John's Church on 15/4/1770 and may be the son of another Joseph who married Sarah Forest in St John's Halesowen on 5/10/1761. Joseph and Sarah Forest may have had at least a further 4 children, John (7/3/1762), Elizabeth 29/4/1764), James (5/4/1767) and Sarah (22/8/1773); all baptised in St Johns Church.

Trying to work out the Joseph Harpers.. hmm none the wiser..

Joseph Harper abt 1770 marries Hannah Clift - connects to Lulu
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =429203435

Poss - Halesowen Burial
5 Nov 1833 Joseph Harper, Cakemore, 63 years
9 May 1833, Hannah Harper, Cakemore, 71 years

And this one, he marries a Sarah probably Cox

1841: Two Gates, Halesowen, Worc
Jos Harper 65 Labourer
Matilda Harper 23
Sarah Harper 3
(all born in county)

1851 Two Gates, Cradley
Reuben Robins 35 - Horsenail maker - b Lye
Matilda Robins 33 - Nailer
Sarah Harper 13 - Daug in law - Nailer
Susanna Robins 11 - Nailer
Mary A Robins 4
Josh Harper 79 - Lodger - Widow - Ag Lab
others b Cradley

Poss burial Halesowen
17 Jan 1858, Joseph HARPER, 90, Cradley

There are these..
Name: Joseph Harper
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 23 Jun 1771
Christening Place: OLD SWINFORD,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Samuel Harper
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04027-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 527939

Name: Jos Harper
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Jan 1773
Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Harper
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04014-1
System Origin: England-ODM

[peterd]

Might be worth trying to find sibling marriage see if there witnesses?

will start a new topic

[Northern Lass]

Flagging to archive if all done on this one

[FarSide]

Flagging to archive if all done on this one

Hi Jan

Yes, please archive, waiting on a couple of lookups I will add when they come thru..

Ta