"Complete"Patrick Vance/Bowen/Swain

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http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =678383649

Note :- Not clear whether son of Patrick Vance and Sarah Green as shown as son in 1881,1891 and 1901 but registered as Patrick Bowen and married as Patrick Bowen and shown as relative in 1911 and as Patrick Bowen. However marriage shows father as Thomas Swain

Marriage looked up by RF
22 Aug 1910 St Paul Smethwick
Patrick BOWEN 31 B Miner 238 Oldbury Road Father Thomas Swain Quarry Man
Martha GRIFFITHS 24 S 238 Oldbury Road Father John Griffiths Iron Worker
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; William Griffiths / Phoebe Griffiths

Can anybody work this out or find Thomas Swain

[Northern Lass]

there was a post by Gardener re did somehow Caroline Bowen figure ......maybe as mother?
1871 Census Birmingham Street Oldbury West Bromwich Worcs.
Richard Bowen Head 56 Ag. Labourer
Eliza Bowen wife 48 Seamstress born Tamworth Warks.
Richard Bowen son 23 Bricklayers Labourer
Sarah Bowen dau 16
Joseph Bowen son 12 Scholar
Caroline Bowen dau 9 Scholar
Rest born Oldbury Worcs.

Patrick born 1879

1881 Census 16 Park Lane Oldbury West Bromwich Worcs.
Patrick Vance Head 31 Labourer born Ireland
Sarah Vance wife 29
Patrick Vance son 2
Richard Bowen boarder 63 (wid)
Rest born Oldbury Worcs.

[Northern Lass]

1841
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
SWAIN Thomas Wednesbury Sandwell Register Office WED/5/50

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
SWAIN Thomas Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/24/352

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
SWAIN Thomas Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/016/422

[rockyfowler]

1861
SWAIN, Samuel Head Married M 29 1832 Horse Nail Maker
Belper, Derbyshire
SWAIN, Rebecca Wife Married F 35 1826 Nail Maker
Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
SWAIN, Thomas Son M 4 1857
Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
SWAIN, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847 Nail Maker
Rowley Regis, Staffordshire

Old Hill, Rowley Regis
Staffordshire

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This looks like Halesowen Thomas Swaine connects to Suki

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =248280147

I have added Census records to tidy up and in 1891 most of family are noted as born Halesowen Worcs.

This looks like Thomas Swaine after Marriage

1881 Census Long Lane Hill Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Neale Head 56 Nail Maker
Mary Neale wife 57 born Bosworth Leics.
William Neale son 27 (m) Nail Maker
Hannah Neale dau.in.law (m) 27
Alice Neale grd.dau 5
Ruth Neale grd.dau 3
Frank Neale grd.son 1
Thomas Swane son.in.law 22 Bricklayer
Mary Swane dau 19
William Swane grd.son 0
Rest born Halesowen Worcs.

Marriage is Thomas Swain & Mary Neal Kings Norton Worcs. 1880

[rockyfowler]

26 Jul 1880 St Peter Harbourne
Thomas SWAIN 22 B Bricklayer Harbourne Father William Swain Grocer
Mary NEAL 19 S Harbourne Father Joseph Neal Nailer
After Banns The X Of Thomas Mary Signed
Wit; William Neal / Hannah Neal X

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Thanks RF
That confirms link
I have found a link in 1901 Census that confirms link between Swaine and Neale families but it will need a bit of work sorting out as Neale and Swaine families are all intermarried and live in same location