-Lilian Florence May Holloway

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next door

1881 New Street Hasbury, Worcester

Benjamin WILLETTS W 50 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Annie WILLETTS 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Bertha WILLETTS 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Edith WILLETTS 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Charley WILLETTS GrdSon 5 w Halesowen, Worcester,
William WILLETTS Visitor M 29 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker

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is this poss james parents ?

extracted

JAMES WILLETTS
Christening: 01 APR 1810 Halesowen, Worcester,


Father: ISAAC WILLETTS
Mother: MARY




poss sibling

JORAM WILLETTS
Christening: 21 APR 1805 Halesowen, Worcester,

MARGARET WILLETTS
Christening: 23 JUL 1815 Halesowen, Worcester,

ANN WILLETTS
Christening: 20 MAR 1803 Halesowen, Worcester,


yes it is on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =395780384

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next door

1881 New Street Hasbury, Worcester

Benjamin WILLETTS W 50 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Annie WILLETTS 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Bertha WILLETTS 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Edith WILLETTS 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Charley WILLETTS GrdSon 5 w Halesowen, Worcester,
William WILLETTS Visitor M 29 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker

next question how does the nieghbour benjamin fit in ?

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is this him as if it is his uncle richard marries a holloway and so does his sister sarah ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =975887004


so any one find him on a eairler census with a wife ?

[Northern Lass]

I cant believe this...

1846
PALMER Caroline HOLLOWAY John Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/74

now on that 1901 the mother is Palmer

and here is a marriage that fits
but

Caroline!!

still dont get this...if in 1901 there is mother Jemima Palmer

then we have that 1846 marriage
1846
PALMER Caroline HOLLOWAY John Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/74

who is that!

John and Sarah I think are this one
1871
HOLLOWAY John HALL Sarah Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/004/6

so it cant be Sarah mother
it has to be Johns mother
but then she would be a Caroline Holloway

They call one of their kids Caroline so is it an aunt?

confused

[Northern Lass]

1863
PALMER Frederick HALL Jemima Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/003/80


it must be Sarahs mother...so she was either married Prev or Had Sarah out of wedlock

so hang on

that name Frederick

must be brother to Caroline who married a John Holloway

so is Caroline mother to John who married Sarah

1846
PALMER Caroline HOLLOWAY John Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/74

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poss this ?

Marriages Sep 1880

Holloway Sarah Jane Alderbury 5a 281
Palmer John Alderbury 5a 281

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poss william

1881 Church Street Halesowen, Worcester


John HOLLOWAY 33 Halesowen, Worcester, Fruiterer
Sarah HOLLOWAY Wi 27 Halesowen, Worcester,
Caroline HOLLOWAY 9 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Harry HOLLOWAY 7 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
John HOLLOWAY 5 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Fred HOLLOWAY 2 Halesowen, Worcester,
William HOLLOWAY 1 Halesowen, Worcester,

I think that is the rite family
cos in 1901 the occup of William is an Electrician in tube works and he has a sister called Florrie

1901 Richmond St Hasbury Halesowen
Sarah Holloway 47 head widow
Harry Holloway 27 son labourer in gas tube works
Fred Holloway 23 son labourer in gas tube works
William Holloway 21 son electrician in gas tube works
Charles Holloway 15 Clerk in gas tube works
Arthur Holloway 10 son
Dorothy Holloway 8 dau
Annie Holloway 6 dau
Florrie Holloway 3 dau
Jemima Palmer 72 mother widow

all b Worcs Halesowen

1881 Church Street, Halesowen, Worcester

Frederick PALMER 56 Leicester, Leicester, Chimney Sweep
Jemima PALMER 51 Stafford, Chimney Sweeps Wife
Anthony W. PALMER 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar


anyone find these earlier census see if a sarah with them ?

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ANTHONY WELLBAN PALMER
Christening: 13 MAY 1868 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: FREDERICK PALMER
Mother: JEMIMA


siblings

JANE PALMER
Christening: 10 MAY 1866 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Death: 01 AUG 1869

Father: FREDERICK PALMER
Mother: JEMIMA

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1861
132
Chapel Street, Halesowen
Fredrick Palmer 37 - Chimney sweep - b Leicester
Jemima Palmer 31
Caroline Palmer 9
Sarah Palmer 7
Frances F Palmer 3
William Hadley 62 - Lodger - Nailor
others b Halesowen

1871
4
Church Street, Halesowen
Frederick Palmer 45 - Sweep - b Leicester
Jemima Palmer 42 - Charwoman
Anthony W Palmer 2
others b Halesowen

1891
222
Church Street, Halesowen
Anthony W Palmer 23 - Fireman at ironworks
Sarah J Palmer 30
Kate Palmer 3
Frederick Palmer 2
Jemima Palmer 61 - Widow - Charwoman - b Rowley
others b Halesowen

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1887
PALMER Anthony W HACKETT Sarah J Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/005/441

[Northern Lass]

1861 not married and on the 1851 she is with a load of Holloways and a Tibbetts as a lodger!

Chapel st Halesowen
Fredrick Palmer 37
Jemima Palmer 31
Caroline Palmer 9
Sarah Palmer 7
Frances F Palmer 3
William Hadley 62

So Jemima is mother of Sarah Hall who marries John Holloway

is his mother and father a Caroline and John marry in 1846?
or that Henry

cant see a John and Caroline on census

and Caroline is a Palmer and Frederick Palmer
are they bro and sis?

[linell]

next door

1881 New Street Hasbury, Worcester

Benjamin WILLETTS W 50 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Annie WILLETTS 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Bertha WILLETTS 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Edith WILLETTS 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Charley WILLETTS GrdSon 5 w Halesowen, Worcester,
William WILLETTS Visitor M 29 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker

next question how does the nieghbour benjamin fit in ?

Benjamin does is not connected to James Willetts and Ann Peter, they are a different family. Best Wishes Linell

[Northern Lass]

I think that lot in 1851 are the rite ones perhaps John is a John Henry

this looks like son Johns birth......

Births Mar 1849
HOLLOWAY John Stourbridge 18 502

then bapt...........

JOHN HOLLOWAY Christening: 24 JAN 1849 Halesowen, Worcester,
Father: HENRY HOLLOWAY
Mother: CAROLINE
Extracted birth

So Caroline Palmer marries a John (henry ) Holloway....I think

she must die between 1848 and 1851

and this fits

Deaths Sep 1850
HOLLOWAY Caroline Stourbridge 18 291

but then this marriage fits those kids on the 1851 better....

1838
HOLLOWAY Henry HARRIS Caroline Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/001/86

not this one

1846
HOLLOWAY John PALMER Caroline Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/74

I do think that perhaps Frederick Palmer who marries Jemmima Hall (ma of Sarah Hall who marries Wm Holloway)
is bro to a Caroline Palmer who marries a John Holloway

but need marriage of Wm Holloway and Sarah Hall to see who father/s are

[Northern Lass]

this looks like parents of Frederick Palmer
he calls his son Antony
marriage cert will cf

FREDERIC PALMER Pedigree
Christening: 04 OCT 1824 St Nicholas, Leicester, Leicester, England
Father: ANTHONY PALMER
Mother: JANE

Extracted birth or christenin