ARC TBC.................Elizabeth Shakespeare/ Hanbury

[Northern Lass]

Any census pls for DAvid and Ann

and Joseph and Sarah Pearsons

[Northern Lass]

can anyone help me add kids for John hanbury pls to Bcc

[Northern Lass]

Should have added:
before she married, Elizabeth Shakespeare had at least three illegitimate children, Ann b 1863, Lucy b 1868, and Joseph b 1870 (all b Brockmoor).
The middle one of these, Lucy, who also used the name Hanbury, married Benjamin Littleton Pearson, in 1892, he was born 1862, son of Joseph Pearson (1841-1889), and Sarah Ann Harris (1841-1929). This Joseph Pearson was the son of David Pearson (1819-1871) and Ann Wood (1820-1843), and David's parents (Joseph Pearson & Phoebe Parrish) are on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

So the unfortunate Jeremiah is related to me on at least two different lines.

how do we know it is sarah ann Harris
1870
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PEARSON Joseph HARRIS Sarah Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/003/465


1873
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PEARSON Joseph PARTRIDGE Sarah A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/030/476

How do we know Sarah ann isnt a scriven?

something not right

need census

Benjamin Littleton b 1862.................late marriage if it is the harris one ..............

[Northern Lass]

sp1 I dont think that sarah Ann harris is correct

really need Benjamin and LUcys marriage but as in chesterfield .................

but on 1871 Joseph Pearson and Sarah Ann are aged 30 and have a 10 year old dau

so I think could be this marriage
1860
PEARSON Joseph SCRIVEN Sarah A Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/003/360

are they on 1911 to get no of years married Joseph and sarah ann?

[Northern Lass]

Phoebe pearson poss birth
1861
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
PEARSON Phoebe Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/057/355

[BC Wench]

Thanks Barb

Ok need to do this carefully and need help please...

So that looks to me like the JOhn on Bcc..............agreed? Agreed

I am connecting.....is id deffo Jane not James on census so James needs deleting as son deffo Jane


do we think that it is deffo Elizabeth Shakespeare even though no father on?

looks good, but not 100% sure, will try and find Ellizabeth on 1861

Sorry, I can't see Elizabeth Shakespeare in 1861 census

[rockyfowler]

10 Feb 1840 All Saints Sedgley
David PEARSON F B Roll Turner Brierley Hill Father Joseph Pearson Coal Master
Ann WOOD (Blank) S Lays Father Littleton Wood Ground Bailiff
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Thomas Fieldhouse / John Pugh X

[Northern Lass]

thanks Rf

[Northern Lass]

sp1 it isnt Harris it is Sarah ann scriven I am sure of it

he is a colliery manager on marriage and father is DAvid pearson a Roll turner

can we find Joseph Pearson on all census pls

[sp1]

sp1 it isnt Harris it is Sarah ann scriven I am sure of it

he is a colliery manager on marriage and father is DAvid pearson a Roll turner

can we find Joseph Pearson on all census pls

Jan
I think you could be right.
I don't have the Harris marriage. A lot of the info came from two of David Pearson's (b 1819) descendants. I know they had some certificates, which I possibly have copies (or notes from) somewhere. But, the fact that I don't have the marriage date/ place, or Sarah Ann's fathers name makes me suspicious. Joseph won't appear in census after 1881 - he died in 1889 and is buried at Wordsley.

His father, David, incidentally, married twice. The one to Ann Wood you have found. Other marriage was to Ann Pearks 8 Oct 1844, Sherbourne, Warwickshire, only two children from marriage to Ann Wood, and nine from second marriage.

[sp1]

I will try to post more details tomorrow afternoon, but a little bit bit more about David born 1819 for now:

He was also a colliery owner, but his mines flooded, the banks refused him a loan for the necessary pumping equipment, and appeals to his brothers for help failed - a copy of a letter to him from his brother George ( founder of Harris & Pearson) survives, intriguingly with parts of the reply inked out. This is why he appears as a 'roll turner' - he was in Scotland at one point. I have the same story from his descendants on several different lines, so am inclined to believe it.

David was bapt 14 March 1819 at Brierley Hill, and died 27 Sept 1871, Bromley Lane (that's definitely from cert).

[Northern Lass]

Ok I have the other marriages and so am going with the Scriven one on Bcc.
Looks like the correct one for me.

Will add later

can anyone find the 1871 for me pls and post
Joseph is a Colliery manager on that I think.

[Northern Lass]

sp1 if you want to add any more to Bcc let me know and will sort you out
I dont have time to add loads

but any connections to other bits on tree then shout!
cos of this thread 3 bits connected so nice one

[sp1]

The Sarah Scriven marriage is on IGI as submitted entry:
39 July 1860, St Edmund, Dudley, Joseph Pearson, aged 20, father David,
Sarah Scriven aged 19, father Joseph

[Northern Lass]

The Sarah Scriven marriage is on IGI as submitted entry:
39 July 1860, St Edmund, Dudley, Joseph Pearson, aged 20, father David,
Sarah Scriven aged 19, father Joseph

already added to Bcc courtesy of a look up by Rf
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =799819931

submitted ones we dont add to Bcc only as a possible in notes

but this looks good on actual marriage from rf