My very first post -other than my Intro- here.
I have so many questions about my Black Country ancestorss but I need to start somewhere so I'll start with one of the 'lost' children on my tree (I seem to be drawn to the children who died so young; some of mine just disappear and I just feel the need to put them to rest in my mind with a year of death and hopefully, even a burial site).
I'll start with Joseph Cooper.
Would someone be able to look at the 1901 Census and see if Joseph Cooper Son of Clara Cooper (& Joseph Cooper, who may be dead by 1901) is still living?
Joseph L Cooper 3 months old at 1891 census living with his mother father Pound Lane Warley WORC
sisters:
Father Joseph 32 yrs
Clara 33 yrs Long Lane
Elsie M(ary) 4 yrs
Edith M(ay) 2 yrs
and his grandmother Susannah Hodgetts 62 yrs Widow visiting Long Lane
By 1911 census, Clara is a widow with 4 children/3 Living
I know the three living are daughters (Doris Marion was b. 1893) so Joseph must have died between either 1891 and 1911 or -if he is still living at 1901 census- 1901 and 1911.
Clara (Mary) Cooper nee Hodgetts b. 1857 was one of my great grandfather Harry Hodgetts' (b. Halesowen 5 MAR 1863) sisters, and I have photos and correspondence from the Cooper daughters to my great grandmother and great aunts and grandmother in NJ USA early 20 century. (Harry immigrated to New Jersey 1885; his children were born here 1890, 1893, and 1896 [this one being my grandmother]. Wife Amplias nee Price b. Warle immigrated 1888 to NJ also, and they married here DEC 1889.)
If I can exclude Joseph in the household in 1901, then at least I can narrow down his time of death to within a decade.
Thank you in advance.
Amy
1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
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1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
England - Black Country: Hodgetts, Price, Cooper
Oldbury, Halesowen, Warley area
Scotland & Ireland (Ballymena, Antrim): Bell, Knipe - Also McKee, Johnstone, Crawford, Neil
Oldbury, Halesowen, Warley area
Scotland & Ireland (Ballymena, Antrim): Bell, Knipe - Also McKee, Johnstone, Crawford, Neil
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Re: 1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
Hi Amy and welcome!
Here's that 1901 Census...
Pound Road, Cakemore, Worcestershire
Clara Cooper 43 Head Wid Halesowen, Worc
Elsie Mary Cooper 14 Dau Warley, Worc
Edith May Cooper 12 Dau Warley, Worc
Davis (DORIS) Marion Cooper 8 Dau Warley, Worc
William Bevan Parrott 29 Lodger Single Clergyman Church of England born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Here's that 1901 Census...
Pound Road, Cakemore, Worcestershire
Clara Cooper 43 Head Wid Halesowen, Worc
Elsie Mary Cooper 14 Dau Warley, Worc
Edith May Cooper 12 Dau Warley, Worc
Davis (DORIS) Marion Cooper 8 Dau Warley, Worc
William Bevan Parrott 29 Lodger Single Clergyman Church of England born Birmingham, Warwickshire
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Re: 1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
mallosa wrote:Hi Amy and welcome!
Here's that 1901 Census...
Pound Road, Cakemore, Worcestershire
Clara Cooper 43 Head Wid Halesowen, Worc
Elsie Mary Cooper 14 Dau Warley, Worc
Edith May Cooper 12 Dau Warley, Worc
Davis (DORIS) Marion Cooper 8 Dau Warley, Worc
William Bevan Parrott 29 Lodger Single Clergyman Church of England born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Thank you so much.
Now I know he died between 1891 and 1901.
I hope at some point to find a burial place but at least I can put another one of my 'children' to rest.
So appreciate your help.
Amy
England - Black Country: Hodgetts, Price, Cooper
Oldbury, Halesowen, Warley area
Scotland & Ireland (Ballymena, Antrim): Bell, Knipe - Also McKee, Johnstone, Crawford, Neil
Oldbury, Halesowen, Warley area
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Re: 1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
Here you are Amy. I've added that info to BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family
and maybe Joseph jnr's Birth & Death....
Poss
Births Mar 1891
Cooper Joseph Leonard W. Bromwich 6b 823
Poss
Death Jun 1891
Cooper Joseph Leonard 0 W. Bromwich 6b 575
and maybe Joseph jnr's Birth & Death....
Poss
Births Mar 1891
Cooper Joseph Leonard W. Bromwich 6b 823
Poss
Death Jun 1891
Cooper Joseph Leonard 0 W. Bromwich 6b 575
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Re: 1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
Amy I have added Joseph and Claras marriage to Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =239430452
and connected him up to father and mother Simeon and Mary ann
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =239430452
and connected him up to father and mother Simeon and Mary ann

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Re: 1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
Northern Lass wrote:Amy I have added Joseph and Claras marriage to Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =239430452
and connected him up to father and mother Simeon and Mary ann

You are awesome!
I'll send the Cooper girls' photos to Mallosa - for the Cooper family album. Maybe someone else is related and would like to know what they looked like.
TY for Joseph L's death; I think you're right, it does look like this is the right boy. B. MAR 1881 d. JUN 1881
I think (pl correct me if wrong) the 1881 census was taken APR of 1881 (correct?) and he was listed as 3 mos or 3/12. That's consistent, isn't it? Or would they have been very accurate and have listed him as 1 mos or 1/12?
Amy
England - Black Country: Hodgetts, Price, Cooper
Oldbury, Halesowen, Warley area
Scotland & Ireland (Ballymena, Antrim): Bell, Knipe - Also McKee, Johnstone, Crawford, Neil
Oldbury, Halesowen, Warley area
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Re: 1901 Census for Joseph Cooper
Is this completed now?
Roger
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