*To be Archived 24hrs*Definitely Jane Rickards!

[Northern Lass]

or maybe another birth cert for one of the other kids

can we find this Jane on a previous census Richards etc

[mel1949]

on the Joseph Beard/ Charlotte Nelms/Sidaway connection
I have that Joseph Beard (senior - born Dudley c1826) married Charlotte Nelms Dec 1845 in Dudley, then he married a Mary Ball in 1865, Dudley; it is this Mary Ball who is connected to Thomas Sidaway, I think!!!!
Joseph & Charlotte are the parents of Joseph (born c 1846) who's wife Jane I am trying to find details about!
No idea if all that makes sense, as am new to all this, Soz Mel

[Northern Lass]

Hi Mel

Yes that is correct
click on this link

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=59983813

I have filled in most of it on our Black country Connections tree.

But think you will find it goes back another generation to a Joseph Beard and Eliza parents of Joseph who married Charlotte/Mary ann and also had that Richard and Thomas who are on the 1871 with Joseph and Jane ie Uncles

[FarSide]

1871
Thomas Beard 36 - Shoemaker
Harriet Beard 35 - b Middlesex Smithfield
Alice Beard 9 - b St Michaels
William Beard 6
Charlotte Beard 2
Thomas Sidaway 14 - App shoemaker
Joseph Beard 25 - Visitor - Shoemaker - b St Stentine
James Beard 24 - (Jane) - Wife - boot closer - b St Nicholas
Richard Beard 9 - bro - b Claines
Richard Beard 32 - Lodger - Shoemaker - b Smethwick
Carolene Beard 44 - Wife - b St Martin
Selena Beard 8
others b Dudley

Poss - Brothers

Poss
1841
Primrose Hill, Dudley
Joseph Beard 44 - Cordwainer
Eliza Beard 30
Mary Beard 19
Joseph Beard 15
John Beard 8
Thomas Beard 6
George Beard 4
Richard Beard 2 - n b in c
Edward Beard 1 Mo
other b in c

Poss marriage
Sep 1837
BEARD Joseph Worcester 18 464
BOLTON Eliza Worcester 18 464

Not sure about this one
1851
61
Clendon? London? Street, Blockhouse (district St Pauls, Worcester)
Joseph Beard 54 - Cordwainer journeyman
Jane Beard 43 - b Audley?
William Beard 31 - Cordwainer - b Audley?
Thomas Beard 15 - Cordwainer - b Audley?
Richard Beard 12 - Errand boy - b Halesowen/Harbourne
Jane Beard 2
Lucy Beard 9 Mo
Marry Hudley 19 - Stepdaug - Shoe binder - b Warley Wigon
John Hudley 17 - Stepson - Cordwainer - b Rowley
Elizabeth Hudley 15 - Stepdaug
Henry Hudley 14 - Stepson - App cordwainer
Patience Hudley 11 - Stepdaug
Hudley kids b Audley?

Marriage
Sep 1860
Beard Thomas Worcester 6c 396
BALL Harriett Worcester 6c 396

[Northern Lass]

Hi FS please do add what you can to the connections tree that you feel looks good
and only if you got time

[FarSide]

No problem I'll add them..

But think you will find it goes back another generation to a Joseph Beard and Eliza parents of Joseph who married Charlotte/Mary ann and also had that Richard and Thomas who are on the 1871 with Joseph and Jane ie Uncles

Poss
1841
Primrose Hill, Dudley
Joseph Beard 44 - Cordwainer
Eliza Beard 30
Mary Beard 19
Joseph Beard 15
John Beard 8
Thomas Beard 6
George Beard 4
Richard Beard 2 - n b in c
Edward Beard 1 Mo
other b in c

Poss marriage
Sep 1837
BEARD Joseph Worcester 18 464
BOLTON Eliza Worcester 18 464

Eliza is too young must be Joseph's 2nd wife, I'll stick it on for a lookup
I'll put kids George, Richard and Edward with mother Eliza - based on marriage in 1837

[Northern Lass]

How many wives do this lot have!


Thanks FS

that one in 1851 is interesting
looks like him
so who is that Jane ...Hudley??

some of the kids look same as in 1841
or do they???

wot u think

[FarSide]

Not sure about them.. will add separately

The others are on
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =492086765

[mallosa]

Not sure about this one
1851
61
Clendon? London? Street, Blockhouse (district St Pauls, Worcester)
Joseph Beard 54 - Cordwainer journeyman
Jane Beard 43 - b Audley?
William Beard 31 - Cordwainer - b Audley?
Thomas Beard 15 - Cordwainer - b Audley?
Richard Beard 12 - Errand boy - b Halesowen/Harbourne
Jane Beard 2
Lucy Beard 9 Mo
Marry Hudley 19 - Stepdaug - Shoe binder - b Warley Wigon
John Hudley 17 - Stepson - Cordwainer - b Rowley
Elizabeth Hudley 15 - Stepdaug
Henry Hudley 14 - Stepson - App cordwainer
Patience Hudley 11 - Stepdaug
Hudley kids b Audley?

Poss
Marriages Sep 1844

BEARD Jos Worcester 18 557
CAREY Fanny Worcester 18 557
EVANS Jane Worcester 18 557
HADLEY Jane Worcester 18 557
LANE Nathanael Worcester 18 557
MATTHEWS Joseph Smith Worcester 18 557
NASH James Worcester 18 557
PARSONS Eliza Worcester 18 557

1861: 6 Lich St, St Helens, Worc
Joseph Beard 64 Head Shoe Maker (employs 6 men) Hallow, Worcestershire
Jane Beard 53 Wife Dudley
Mary Hadley 29 Dau U Shoe Binder Salop (Oldbury)
Elizabeth Hadley 26 Dau U Milliner Dudley
Patience Hadley 21 Dau U Stay Maker Dudley
Lucy Beard 10 Dau Scholar Worcester

[Jimmy]

Births Jun 1860.
SIDAWAY Caroline, Dudley 6c. 117.

[FarSide]

Poss death
1841
BEARD Eliza Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/006/442

[FarSide]

It fits nicely, I'm going to add Jane Hadley as 3rd wife.. tomorrow..

[Northern Lass]

Poss death
1841
BEARD Eliza Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/006/442

that makes it look likely that he married that Jane do you think?

emm the Jane in that family....could that be the Jane that is with Joseph b 1846....???



no!
surely not!!

could it????

[Northern Lass]

It fits nicely, I'm going to add Jane Hadley as 3rd wife.. tomorrow..

nice one

add that 1851 census info will ya too cos that is good info

Did Joseph b 1846 marry Jane Beard b 1849

maybe that is why no marriage for Joseph and Jane
and this Jane Hadley married previously
be funny if her maiden name is Richards

if that Jane dau of Joseph beard b 1797 and Jane Hadley is the jane we are looking for
is that his Step aunt or something

[Northern Lass]

Can we find this lot on the 1841 I mean the hadley lot
Patience b abt 1840 and sibs....
get fathers name and a prev marriage for Jane

1851
61
Clendon? London? Street, Blockhouse (district St Pauls, Worcester)
Joseph Beard 54 - Cordwainer journeyman
Jane Beard 43 - b Audley?
William Beard 31 - Cordwainer - b Audley?
Thomas Beard 15 - Cordwainer - b Audley?
Richard Beard 12 - Errand boy - b Halesowen/Harbourne
Jane Beard 2
Lucy Beard 9 Mo
Marry Hudley 19 - Stepdaug - Shoe binder - b Warley Wigon
John Hudley 17 - Stepson - Cordwainer - b Rowley
Elizabeth Hudley 15 - Stepdaug
Henry Hudley 14 - Stepson - App cordwainer
Patience Hudley 11 - Stepdaug
Hudley kids b Audley?