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Benjamin Shakespear b abt 1827-Jo adding

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spes kindly looked this marriage for me, thank you :grin:
4th Sept 1850 All Saints Sedgley

Benjamin Shakespear, 23, b, Nailer, Gornal, Joseph Shakespear Nailer
Elizabeth Colebison (Colalison) 29, widow, Gornal, Richard Jukes Glass cutter
Both gave their mark
after banns
performed by M Lewis vicar
Wits Edward Lavender x
Sarah Horton x


It was for this thread but a few possible marriages...
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=14612&p=160615&hilit=benjamin+shakespeare+elizabeth#p160615

Can we find him in any census?
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I was thinking possibly this one on BCC but cant follow him? :? I dont think I have seen him married either?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family
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grangers14 wrote:I was thinking possibly this one on BCC but cant follow him? :? I dont think I have seen him married either?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family

That family lived in Woodside for a very long time so seems unlikely any of them were born in Gornal. However, he IS the only Benjamin born locally around that time with a father Joseph.
Also note that he is with is parents in 1841, but not in 1851.
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Re: Benjamin Shakespear b abt 1827

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Hmm thanks sp1.
His marriage wasnt till Sept...
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I wonder if Benjamin was simply living in Gornal at the time. Havent been able to find him, or his possible wife in 1851 or later census.
His father Joseph WAS a nailer, as confirmed by earlier census. The date, fathers name and occupation all fit......
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Re: Benjamin Shakespear b abt 1827

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??
Transcribed as Shakpem looks like Shakespear
1861. Church Street, Kingswinford
Benjamin Shakespeare, head, 38, Nailor,
Elizabeth, wife, 40, nailors wife, Wordsley
Mary, daur, 10,
Benjamin, son, 8,
All others born Brierley Hill
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?? Brierley Hill area

1841. Delph, Kingswinford
Thomas Perry, 50, Miner
Rebecca, 52,
/Benjamin Shakespeare, 14,
/Mary Hodkiss, 9
All born in County

1851. Delph, Kingswinford
Thomas Perry, head, 67, Coal Miner
Rebecca, wife, 68, Worcestershire
Benjamin Shakespeare, Lodger, 22,
Mary Hodgkiss, Lodger, 18
All others born Kingswinford
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grangers14 wrote:??
Transcribed as Shakpem looks like Shakespear
1861. Church Street, Kingswinford
Benjamin Shakespeare, head, 38, Nailor,
Elizabeth, wife, 40, nailors wife, Wordsley
Mary, daur, 10,
Benjamin, son, 8,
All others born Brierley Hill

There were two Benjamins born in Brierley Hill in the 1820s:
one b 1825, s of Benjamin & Ann
on e b 1827, s of Thomas & Mary Anne

Not sure if either of them married
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Theres a few around that age, may be if we run with each? See what we can match up?
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grangers14 wrote:Theres a few around that age, may be if we run with each? See what we can match up?
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This might help:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... ptisms.htm

And this:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... urials.htm

Here's some of the Benjamin's in 1861:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... /index.htm

And here's ALL the Benjamin's in the whole 1881 census:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... ndex/b.htm
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The Benjamin born 1825 was transported to Australia with his brother John:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... njamin.htm

Here's what I have on this family:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... _geary.htm

And here's Benjamin's death certificate, which confirms his parents names:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... njn_wa.gif

It looks like he was in Stafford jail in 1861 (his transportation records state he had previous convictions),
So the Benjamin listed as born about 1826 in More (Moor) Lane in 1861 Brierley Hill census, wife wife Sarah, is not him.
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I will plod through and get it added to BCC.
I have put other threads on to cover them. But too tired to do anything else tonight.
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Have looked at my notes and can't see another Benjamin b Abt 1827 with father Joseph who was a nailer. Where did the couple disappear to? - still can't find them after marriage.
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Seems like we have exhausted this lot of Benjamins now.
So I will archive.
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