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ARC TBC - Cutler query

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This lot connect to my tree is many different places.


http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =436053830


1841 census transcription details for: Margaret's Hill Hagley Road, Halesowen, Hasbury

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 908
Book/Folio: 4/20
Page: 7
Reg. District: Stourbridge
Sub District: Halesowen
Parish: Halesowen
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Margaret's Hill Hagley Road, Halesowen, Hasbury
County: Shropshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HADLEY, Alden M 45 1796 Shropshire
HADLEY, Maria F 40 1801 Shropshire
HADLEY, Mary F 15 1826 Shropshire
HADLEY, Elizabeth F 13 1828 Shropshire
HADLEY, William M 11 1830 Shropshire
HADLEY, Ann F 9 1832 Shropshire
HADLEY, John M 6 1835 Shropshire
HADLEY, Thomas M 3 1838 Shropshire
HADLEY, Esther F 0 (5 months) 1841 Shropshire
CUTLER, Elizabeth F 25 1816 Shropshire

1851 census transcription details for: Wall Well

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2034
Folio: 135
Page: 13
Reg. District: Stourbridge Union
Sub District: Hales Owen
Parish:
Enum. District: 3A
Ecclesiastical District: Halesowen
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Wall Well
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HADLEY, Abden Head Married M 58 1793 Farm Labourer Hailey Green Luttley, Worcestershire
HADLEY, Mari Wife Married F 54 1797 Cakemore, Worcestershire
HADLEY, John Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Nailor Hasbury, Worcestershire
HADLEY, Thomas Son Unmarried M 13 1838 Nailor Hasbury, Worcestershire

1861 census transcription details for: Spring Hill, Hasbury

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2063
Folio: 61
Page: 17
Reg. District: Stourbridge
Sub District: 1 Halesowen
Parish: Hasbury
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: Halesowen
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Spring Hill, Hasbury
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HADLEY, Alden Head Married M 68 1793 Agricultural Labourer Hasbury, Worcestershire
HADLEY, Maria Wife Married F 64 1797 Lutley, Worcestershire
HADLEY, John Son Unmarried M 26 1835 Nailer Hasbury, Worcestershire
HADLEY, Thomas Son Unmarried M 23 1838 Nailer Hasbury, Worcestershire
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Re: Thomas Hadley strange Census entry

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A note I made on my tree on Ancestry and other places.....

A Maria married Abden.

Maria comes from a completely difference part of Worcestershire.

All Abden's children are baptised with the mothers name being Maria.

Mary Cutler died in 1817 as a spinster!!!!!
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Re: Thomas Hadley strange Census entry

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Mary's burial details. Notice the double T in Cuttler. This family tended to use two T's on many records including when signing their own names on registers.


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Detail
1 Jul 1817 Mary CUTTLER 20 Worcestershire Halesowen, St John the Baptist

Date

Other information

Web Address

Source Information

Source Title (view source details)
National Burial Index V3

Source Repository
No repository specified for this source

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Re: Thomas Hadley strange Census entry

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As you can see, every single baptism record has Maria as the mother not Mary.

Mary Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 25 December 1822 St. John, Halesowen, Worcester, England
residence: Halesowen, Worcester, England

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria

Elizabeth Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 22 May 1825 St. John, Halesowen, Worcester, England
residence: Halesowen, Worcester, England

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria

John Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 19 October 1834 St. John, Halesowen, Worcester, England
residence: Halesowen, Worcester, England

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria Hadley

William Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 18 February 1827 Lalop, Halesowen, Worcester, England
residence: Halesowen, Worcester, England

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria Hadley

Eliza Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 2 April 1820 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria

Elizabeth Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 22 May 1825 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria

Esther Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 4 January 1841 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria

Esther Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 24 January 1841 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria

Ann Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 17 April 1831 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria


William Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 18 February 1827 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria

John Hadley

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 19 October 1834 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father:Abden Hadley
mother:Maria
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Re: Thomas Hadley strange Census entry

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I believe that Maria was Hannah Maria Cutler. Last time I was searching I was trying to find a connection to the ELizabeth living with them in 1841.

Name: Hannah Maria Cutler
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 11 Jun 1797
Christening Place: PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH,OLDBURY BY HALESOWEN,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Dixon Cutler
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Miriam
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01641-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0825371 (RG4 1529), 0825371 (RG4 2493)
Reference ID:
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Re: ARC TBC.............Thomas Hadley strange Census entry

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Does somebody want to try and find that 1841 Cutler?
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Re: ARC TBC.............Thomas Hadley strange Census entry

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MarkCDodd wrote:Does somebody want to try and find that 1841 Cutler?


Wot are we looking for? :?
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Re: ARC TBC..................Cutler query

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Okay, on BCC we we had Mary Cutler marrying Abden Hadley which was wrong.

The Maria Cutler who did marry Abden seems to be a Cutler line not represented on BCC.

I have a theory who she is but we need more proof.

In 1841 there is an Elizabeth Cutler living with them.

If we can find out who she is we may find a link to the correct Maria.

This really should be worked on and not archived.
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Re: Cutler query

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Go on then Mark start it off

here is link on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =550222566

here is marriage
Marriage 15 Nov 1819 St Johns Halesowen
Abden Hadley X o.t.p. bach
Maria Cutler X o.t.p. spin
By JR (Curate)Wit: Thomas Cutler X Elizabeth Cutler X
Banns

1841 Margaret's Hill Hagley Road, Halesowen, Hasbury
HADLEY, Alden M 45 1796 Shropshire
HADLEY, Maria F 40 1801 Shropshire
HADLEY, Mary F 15 1826 Shropshire
HADLEY, Elizabeth F 13 1828 Shropshire
HADLEY, William M 11 1830 Shropshire
HADLEY, Ann F 9 1832 Shropshire
HADLEY, John M 6 1835 Shropshire
HADLEY, Thomas M 3 1838 Shropshire
HADLEY, Esther F 0 (5 months) 1841 Shropshire
CUTLER, Elizabeth F 25 1816 Shropshire
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Re: Cutler query

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