*Arch * -Elizabeth Stringer/Thomas Hipkiss

[boz]

I am trying to find the parents of Elizabeth Stringer b. abt. 1800 in Rowley Regis.

She married Thomas Hipkiss 12 May 1823 in St Thomas, Dudley and witnesses were S or L Paskin and Isaac Priest

I have found this wedding

PHOEBE STRINGER
Spouse: ISAAC PRIEST
Marriage: 04 JUN 1816 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Could this be her sister?

Also on the 1851 census Sarah Priest b. abt 1782 Rowley Regis was visiting Thomas & Elizabeth

This Sarah fits the Sarah Stringer who married William Priest b. abt. 1790 in Rowley Regis marriage 7 March 1808 in Halesowen

Could Sarah have had Elizabeth before she married William Priest?

Boz

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on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =724808291

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poss elizabeth ?


ELIZTH. STRINGER
Christening: 23 MAR 1800 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Father: JOHN STRINGER
Mother: MARY




siblings

MARY STRINGER
Christening: 24 JUN 1792 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

JOHN STRINGER
Christening: 22 FEB 1795 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


PHEBE STRINGER
Christening: 13 AUG 1797 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

[mumbles]

Nl,
I thought this was already on Bcc as it is on my main Hipkiss line
Parents of Elizabeth were John Stringer b.1764 RR and Mary Gravner born 1764
They had children as follows elizabeth born 1797
Mary born 1804 Phebe born 1797 and John born 1795

[Northern Lass]

There apppear to be 2 Elizabeth Stringers one married to Thomas Hipkiss and one to James Clarke

can someone clarify....

The John Stringer we have is married to Mary Grosvenor
and then Elizabeth marries James Clarke

need to know if that is corrrect

Do we have the wrong Elizabeth Stringer with father John and mother Mary linked to James Clarke instead of Thomas hipkiss

Elizabeth with thomas Hipkiss

Elizabeth with parents John and Mary and married to James Clarke

if we have the wrong parents to the wrong Eliz then we need to know and alter it
I will do that when I know what the info should be guys please

[linell]

Hi NL, the information on Connections is definitely correct. Elizabeth Stringer born abt 1800, daughter of John and Mary, Married James Clarke. Their daughter Hepzibah Clarke is living with her Aunt Sarah Stringer in 1851, that is Sarah Stringer wife of Samuel Stringer born 1767, died 1851, brother of John, Hepzibah's Grandfather. I have another Elizabeth born abt. 1810, daughter of Wm Stringer and Sarah Troman, could she be yours Chris? Best Wishes Linell.

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on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =724808291

here the link to thomas hipkiss and elizabeth stringer posted it earlier

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Nl,
I thought this was already on Bcc as it is on my main Hipkiss line
Parents of Elizabeth were John Stringer b.1764 RR and Mary Gravner born 1764
They had children as follows elizabeth born 1797
Mary born 1804 Phebe born 1797 and John born 1795

Hi NL, the information on Connections is definitely correct. Elizabeth Stringer born abt 1800, daughter of John and Mary, Married James Clarke. Their daughter Hepzibah Clarke is living with her Aunt Sarah Stringer in 1851, that is Sarah Stringer wife of Samuel Stringer born 1767, died 1851, brother of John, Hepzibah's Grandfather. I have another Elizabeth born abt. 1810, daughter of Wm Stringer and Sarah Troman, could she be yours Chris? Best Wishes Linell.

there seem to be a conflict of intrest here how do we sort it out what eviedence do you have to back your point of view mumbles

as linell is quoting 1851 cesus as underline above


if anything need altering contact nl

[linell]

Hi Mumbles, Elizabeth Stringer 1800 who Married James Clarke, lived in Tibbetts Gardens, as did her parents John and Mary, all the Stringers in Tibbetts Gardens, are of the same family, they are all in my tree. I think Chris could be on the right track with her Priest connection. HTH from Linell.

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poss elizabeth ?


ELIZTH. STRINGER
Christening: 23 MAR 1800 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Father: JOHN STRINGER
Mother: MARY




siblings

MARY STRINGER
Christening: 24 JUN 1792 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

JOHN STRINGER
Christening: 22 FEB 1795 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


PHEBE STRINGER
Christening: 13 AUG 1797 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

so are all these yours linell some not on ? as parents john and mary ?

[mumbles]

I have 6 pages of Parish Record details and Census Records validating my version( including all RR Stringer records and references that tie up to Thomas Hipkiss Hipkiss. However there is a suggestion that there were two John & Mary Stringers in RR at same time.
I do not want to post all on to this subject post so do you want me to send to anyone else to try and resolve

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poss elizabeth ?


ELIZTH. STRINGER
Christening: 23 MAR 1800 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Father: JOHN STRINGER
Mother: MARY




siblings

MARY STRINGER
Christening: 24 JUN 1792 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

JOHN STRINGER
Christening: 22 FEB 1795 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


PHEBE STRINGER
Christening: 13 AUG 1797 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

so are all these yours linell some not on ? as parents john and mary ?

if this is john and mary stringer marriage this is extracted two biths above underlined before this marriage so was mary a widower and hers from a previous or are they john or niethers ?

extracted

JOHN STRINGER
MARY STRINGER
Marriage: 16 NOV 1795 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England


found this but submitted

Mary Gravner
John Stringer
Marriage: 16 NOV 1795 Of, Rowley Regis, Stafford,



can anyone check that extracted marriage for witnesses please


this still dosent explian pre 1795 births for a john and mary who were they ?

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also found extracted

MARY STRINGER
Christening: 24 JUN 1792 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Death: 07 MAY 1804


Father: JOHN STRINGER
Mother: MARY

[mumbles]

Details below are Stringer details which suggest possibly two John & Marys and children before marriage.
Thomas Hipkiss born 1802 married an Elizabeth Stringer on 12/5/1823 St.Thomas Dudley
A daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth namely Phoebe Hipkiss married a Ira Dingley and thus connection to Dingley line. (see Dingley Census details).

Elizabeth Stringer was descended from a Stringer family that first appeared on Rowley Regis Parish Records in 1734 and full transcript of records is as follows:-

Baptism:-Sarah daughter of William & Hannah Stringer 27/10/1734
Marriage:- Benjamin Atwood b. and Jane Stringer sp. 2/3/1756
Baptism:- William son of Samuel & Elizabeth Stringar 8/9/1759
Baptism :- Hannah daughter of Samuel & Elizabeth Stringer 21/2/1762
Baptism :- John son of Samuel & Elizabeth Stringer 8/7/1764
Witnesses at weddings:-
John Stringer 15/11/1770
Samuel Stringer 19/7/1779
William Stringer 15/3/1780
Burial :- Child of Samuel Stringer 9/4/1773
Baptism :- Mary daughter of Samuel & Elizabeth Stringer 24/1/1776
Baptism:- Phebe daughter of Samuel & Elizabeth Stringer 15/5/1780
Baptism :- Lucy daughter of William & Ann Stringer 20/4/1783
Baptism:- William son of William & Ann Stringer 20/4/1783
Burial :- Child of John Stringer 19/3/1787
Baptism :- Lucy daughter of Nancy Stringer 25/12/1787
Marriage:- John Bache b. & Elizabeth Stringer 24/3/1789
Marriage:- Samuel Stringer & Mary Nock 11/10/1790
Baptism:- Mary daughter of John & Mary Stringer 24/6/1792
Baptism :- John son of John & Mary Stringer 22/7/1795
Marriage:- John Stringer b. & Mary Stringer ( signed as Mary Gravner) 16/11/1795
Note Three possible entries for Gravner found:-
Burial :- Mary daughter of William & Mary Gravenor 2/10/1720
Baptism:- William son of William & Mary Gravenor 4/10/1725
Baptism :- Mary daughter of Samuel & Nancy Grovenor 9/8/1778
Marriage :- John Smith & Mary Stringer 10/10/1796
Witness Samuel Stringer
Baptism :- Phebe daughter of John & Mary Stringer 13/8/1797
Baptism:- Elizabeth daughter of John & Mary Stringer 23/3/1800
Baptism:- Mary daughter of John & Mary Stringer 7/5/1804
Burial :- Honour Stringer Widow 21/2/1808


From above it appears that all or most of Stringers noted are related and on Ancestry further extrapolation and detail has been given showing line as follows:-
Samuel Stringer born 1727 married an Elizabeth Westwood born 1739 Halesowen ,Worcestershire daughter of William Westwood ( 1715 to 1795) & Ann ? born 1717.
Marriage was on 28/8/1758 at Halesowen .Worcestershire
John Stringer born 1764 married a Mary Stringer ( signed as Mary Gravner) in 1795
One possible reason for this note is that John & Mary appear to have had children before & after marriage:-


Rowley Parish Records:-
Child of John Stringer 19/3/1787
Mary daughter of John & Mary Stringer 24/6/1792
John son of John & Mary Stringer 22/7/1795
Phebe daughter of John & Mary Stringer 13/8/1797
Elizabeth daughter of John & Mary Stringer 23/3/1800
Mary daughter of John & Mary Stringer 7/5/1804

More likely explanation is that the children born before marriage of 1796 were from a different John & Mary Stringer and this would tie up with age of Mary Grovenor born 1778

Children of Samuel and Elizabeth Stringer were not all noted on Rowley Parish Records and are as follows:-
William Stringer born 1759
Hannah Stringer born 1762
John Stringer born 1764 married Mary Gravner in 1795
Samuel Stringer born 1767 , died 1851
Mary Stringer born 1772 died 1773
Mary Stringer born 1776
Phoebe Stringer born 1780
Sarah Stringer born 1782
Joseph Stringer born 1787 died 1861


Census Details of Stringer family members other than Elizabeth Stringer who married Thomas Hipkiss are as follows:-


1841 Census
Ref. No. HO 107, EN dist.8, Page 36 , Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
John Stringer M 70 Staffs. Ag. Lab.
Joseph Fellows M 60 Staffs. Shoe Maker

Address:- Tibbett's Garden, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

Note:-a) A Samuel Stringer aged 70 lives next door and a William Stringer aged 55 and a Sarah Stringer aged 60 in same street ( see below) but ages do not tie up with children of Samuel & Elizabeth
Stringer .

1841 Census Ref. No. HO 107, EN dist.8, Page 36 , Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
Samuel Stringer M 70 Nailer
Sarah Stringer F 60 Staffs.

Address:- Tibbett's Garden, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

1841 Census
Ref. No. HO 107, EN dist.8, Page 36 , Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
William Stringer M 55 Staffs. Nailer
Sarah Stringer F 50 Staffs.
Hannah Stringer F 15 Ditto
William Stringer M 10 Ditto
Samuel Stringer M 8 Ditto

Address:- Tibbett's Garden, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

1841 Census
Ref. No. HO 107, EN dist.8, Page 8 , Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
John Stringer M 45 Staffs. Lab.
Susan Stringer F 45 Staffs.
Thomas Stringer M 20 Staffs.

Address:- Tory Street, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

Note:-a) Age ties up with birth of John Stringer born 1795 a son of Samuel & Elizabeth Stringer

1841 Census
Ref. No. HO 107, Page 34 , Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
Joseph Stringer M 45 Staffs. Chain Maker
Mary Stringer F 45 Staffs.
John Stringer M 20 Ditto
Samuel Stringer M 15 Ditto
Joseph Stringer M 14 Ditto
William Stringer M 11 Ditto
Eliza Stringer F 7 Ditto
Maria Stringer F 6 Ditto

Address:- New Town, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

1851 Census
Ref. No. HO 107, Piece 2028, Folio 360 , Page 28, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
Joseph Stringer Head M M 63 Rowley, Staffs. Chain Maker
Mary Stringer Wife M F 59 West Bromwich, Staffs.
John Stringer Son U M 32 Rowley, Staffs. Chain Maker
Eliza Stringer Dau U F 19 Ditto Ditto
Mirah Stringer Dau U F 17 Ditto Ditto

Address:- Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

Note:- a) Two doors up lives William Stringer aged 65 and Sarah aged 60 ( see below) and further up road lives a Sarah Stringer widow aged 72 and her niece Hephzibah Clarke


1851 Census
Ref. No. HO 107, Piece 2028, Folio 360 , Page 28, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
William Stringer Head M M 65 Rowley, Staffs. Lab. On Road
Sarah Stringer Wife M F 60 Ditto Late Nail Maker
Samuel Stringer Son U M 18 Ditto Chain Maker

Address:- Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

1851 Census
Ref. No. HO 107, Piece 2028, Folio 360 , Page 28, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
Sarah Stringer Head Wid. F 72 Rowley, Staffs. Chain Maker
Hephzibah Clark Niece U F 18 Ditto Ditto

Address:- Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire


1861 Census
Ref. No. RG 9 , Piece 2040, Folio 40, Page 29, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire
Name Relation Status Gender Age Birth Place Occupation
Joseph Stringer Head M M 73 Rowley, Staffs. Chain Maker
Mary Stringer Wife M F 70 Ditto

Address:- Tibbett's Garden , Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

[mumbles]

Checked on Ancestry and Linda Stoker and Dennis Wood also have Elizabeth Stringer as daughter of John & Mary and in turn Samuel Stringer and Elizabeth Westwood as John's parents.
The reason I did not put on Stringer details was because I was not 100% sure and it looked like there were two John & Marys and dates of b. of some children did not tie up with Mary Gravner or Grosvenor date of birth