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Hello all,
I apologise for not being on in a while, i have been a busy gasman through the winter, and my research has suffered because of this.
I am awaiting for some DNA results to come back to me, as i have taken part in the KENDALL family association Y-DNA test, which should hopefully match me with living Kendall's across the globe, but until these results are returned, i have been concentrating on my Nan's maiden name, CHATER.
I am trying to locate THOMAS CHATER'S Birth certificate. THOMAS was born circa 1865 in Dudley, but the closest match to a THOMAS CHATER is in Sedgley in 1866, but this does'nt tie up with the census records. THOMAS has taken on his mother's surname, and his mother is listed as widowed in the 1881 census, and un-married in the 1871 census. I cannot find a marriage record for a HANNAH CHATER ABT 1843, or a record for the father.
Can anyone help with this one? Any information or help would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Rich
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Hi Rich, Sedgley would be a Dudley Registration, can you add the Census information that you do have please, will be easier to see who you are searching for, cheers from Linell.
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1901 census Thomas Chater, Family head, aged 37:- 1901 census
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CHATER, Thomas Head Married M 37 1864 Coal Miner (Hewer) Under Ground
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Mary A Wife Married F 36 1865
Rowley Regis, Staffordshire VIEW
CHATER, Thomas Son Single M 15 1886 Coal Miner (Hewer) U G
Rowley, Staffordshire VIEW
CHATER, Joseph Son Single M 15 1886 Pottery Labourer
Rowley Regis, Staffordshire VIEW
CHATER, Sarah Daughter Single F 12 1889
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Edward Son M 9 1892
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Richard Son M 8 1893
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, William Son M 6 1895
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Walter Son M 3 1898
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Susannah Daughter F 2 1899
Dudley, Worcestershire

1891 Census, Thomas Chater, Head, aged 26 (With mother living in abode) 1891 census
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CHATER, Thomas Head Married M 26 1865 Coal Miner
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Mary A Wife Married F 25 1866 Chain Maker
Old Hill, Staffordshire VIEW
CHATER, Thomas Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Old Hill, Staffordshire VIEW
CHATER, Joseph Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Old Hill, Staffordshire VIEW
CHATER, Sarah Daughter F 1 1890
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Hannah Mother Widow F 50 1841 Living On Her Own Means
Dudley, Worcestershire VIEW

Thomas Chater, aged 16, living with just his mother. 1881 census

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CHATER, Hannah Head Widow F 38 1843 Nail Maker
Dudly, Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Thomas Son Single M 16 1865 Labourer
Dudly, Worcestershire

Hannah Chater:- pre Thomas aged 6 1871 census

CHATER, Thomas Head M 87 1784 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Hannah Wife F 75 1796 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Mary Ann Daughter F 35 1836 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Hannah Daughter F 28 1843 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Edward GrandSon M 11 1860 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Thomas GrandSon M 6 1865 Worcestershire VIEW

Hannah Chater? cannot find on 1861 census, must be married, but cannot find record?
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Hope this helps....

I was wondering if Thomas has his father's surnname for a year or so, until his father passed away, or moved away? Bit of a mystery at the moment. My Mrs takes the mickey out of me for having Gypsey Blood or Romano Blood lol.....
She could be right after all!!! lol
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This them on bcc ?


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =689540296
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Thanks that's very helpful, looks like Thomas was illegitimate, son of Hannah Chater. He may not have a birth certificate it wasn't law until 1872. Need to find Hannah in 1861 she may have been in Service?

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Thanks Peter hadn't looked on there, that's a great help, so Hannah was Susannah, maybe on the 1861 as Susanna

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linell wrote:Thanks Peter hadn't looked on there, that's a great help, so Hannah was Susannah, maybe on the 1861 as Susanna

Linell.


Susannah looks about right! Cheers! Now, i wonder if i can locate a birthcert!?
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Poss
Birth 1842
CHATER Hannah Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/014/326
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I have a similar name, Chaytor, my mother born 1841 is transcribed wong on the birth index.

May be try cha*r there can be many variations as I have seen!
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who does edward belong to ?


CHATER, Thomas Head M 87 1784 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Hannah Wife F 75 1796 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Mary Ann Daughter F 35 1836 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Hannah Daughter F 28 1843 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Edward GrandSon M 11 1860 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Thomas GrandSon M 6 1865 Worcestershire VIEW
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Thomas Chater
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1866
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 95
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mallosa wrote:Poss
Birth 1842
CHATER Hannah Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/014/326


1851: Derby End, Dudley, Staffs
Thomas Chater 63 Head Hallier? Oldbury, Worc
Hannah Chater 53 Wife Nailer Rowley
Mary Ann Chater 15 Dau Nailer Dudley, Worc
Hannah Chater 8 Dau Dudley, Worc
John Darley 42 Lodger Wid Horse Nailmaker Rowley (could be Darby)
Thomas Darley 18 Lodger unm Horse Nailmaker Rowley (ditto)
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peterd wrote:who does edward belong to ?


CHATER, Thomas Head M 87 1784 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Hannah Wife F 75 1796 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Mary Ann Daughter F 35 1836 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Hannah Daughter F 28 1843 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Edward GrandSon M 11 1860 Worcestershire VIEW
CHATER, Thomas GrandSon M 6 1865 Worcestershire VIEW



Possibly Mary Ann, or he may be Hannah/Susannah's too!
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grangers14 wrote:Thomas Chater
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1866
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 95



I have seen this one on freeBMD, and WestMidsBMD, but it seems a little too late for some reason, and it's a Sedgley record i think... but i guess she could have registered him late, as it was'nt the law? If i send for the cert it's gonna cost me a tenner lol. Shall i take the gamble? haha
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