ARC TBC.................Maria White or Weaver?--NL adding

[Rob]

" 24 Dec 1894 St Paul Smethwick
William SMITH 24 B Labourer 14 Victoria St Joseph Smith Miner
Maria WHITE 26 S 26 George St James White Labourer
After Banns William Signed The X Of Maria
Wit; Joseph Smith / Emma Smith
Check today at Sandwell ."

This was checked again at Sandwell by Rocky.Thanks Rock.
It states father of Maria is James White but i still reckon it's a misprint and it should be James Weaver.What do you think?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ver-Family

[Northern Lass]

Why cant she be Maria White ?
what evidence do you have that she is Maria Weaver

spinster on marriage not wid

could be a misprint and should maybe say wid and father James weaver



You need to add a note with that marriage

and you need to add kids from census
the Smith ones for Maria and Wm

half a job!

1901 1 Court 6 House,Brades Road,Oldbury
William Smith head 34 Coal Miner
Marie Smith wife 35
Florence Smith daug 11
Thomas Smith son 9
Elizabeth Smith daug 6
Helen Smith daug 2
All born Oldbury
Next door Joseph Hipkiss

1911 1 Court 5 Halesowen Street,Oldbury
Jonah Cadman head 28 Ironworker(bar weigher)
Emma Cadman wife 22
Emily Mary Cadman daug 10months
William Smith uncle 40 gen labourer rolling mills
Maria Smith aunt 39
Lizzie Smith cousin 15
Maria Smith cousin 10
All born Oldbury.

why dont you order one of the kids birth certifs helen smith age 2 in 1901

[Rob]

Order one of the kids birth certificates!!?? I'm a pensioner now you know!!
I have a marriage Jonah Cadman - Emma Weaver 1907 Christ Church,Oldbury.
So there's Hipkiss,Smith and Weaver connection!
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ver-Family
It's definitely Maria White nee Weaver.
Or not?

[Northern Lass]

:shock: Order one of the kids birth certificates!!?? I'm a pensioner now you know!!
I have a marriage Jonah Cadman - Emma Weaver 1907 Christ Church,Oldbury.
So there's Hipkiss,Smith and Weaver connection!
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ver-Family
It's definitely Maria White nee Weaver.
Or not?

who is father for Emma weaver on marriage info you have?

the emma in 1911 is 22 so not one who is sister to Maria Weaver
the emma in 1911 is b abt 1889

come on then post it
1907
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CADMAN Jonah WEAVER Emma Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/6/138

ifEmma is dau of one of James Weavers kids you cracked it

[Rob]

So we wait for the lookup.
I'm still not totally convinced.It could have been another Maria White and William Smith i suppose.
I can't find another wedding for Maria White-Weaver to William Smith though.

[Northern Lass]

Where is Emma the one b 1889 age 22 on 1891 and 1901

CADMAN Jonah - WEAVER Emma 1907 Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/6/138


can only see this birth
1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
WEAVER Emma Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/63/135

[gardener]

(I am losing the plot)

Could this be Minnie?

1901

Richard H Mather 38
Minnie Mather 30
Minnie White 12

Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldbury, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: New Brighton
County/Island: Cheshire

Marriages Dec 1890
Heginbotham Frederick Toxteth Park 8b 412
Mather Richard Henry Toxteth Park 8b 412
Ogden Charlotte Elizabeth Toxteth Park 8b 412
Sheean Ellen Toxteth Park 8b 412
White Minnie Toxteth Park 8b 412

[gardener]

Father given as Thomas White, chemical worker. Minnie's age is 21

[Northern Lass]

eh? who is Minnie?

how does she link to Emma Weaver b 1889?

[Northern Lass]

Re Emma Weaver b 1889 I think she is in Rounds Fold Oldbury as a Boarder living with
George and Sarah Day.

in 1901 James Weaver is living there too not in household but Rounds Fold

Anyone going to Smethwick and can look up that marriage for us pls

Emma must be dau of one of James Weavers kids.
I think you are correct Rob just need to link Emma in.

oh! and add those kids please!! Helen and Elizabeth Smith
I do hate loose ends!

[gardener]

Where is Emma the one b 1889 age 22 on 1891 and 1901

CADMAN Jonah - WEAVER Emma 1907 Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/6/138


can only see this birth
1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
WEAVER Emma Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/63/135

There is this one boarding in Oldbury in 1901

George Day 50
Sarah Day 52
William Day 19
Louisa Day 16
Emma Weaver 11

but I can't see her in 1891

[Northern Lass]

1901 Rounds Fold,Oldbury
William Weaver Head 24 coal Miner b.Oldbury
Hannah Weaver wife 19 b.Oldbury
James Weaver boarder 76 no occupation b.Bristol,Somerset

same place as the days on 1901

[gardener]

I wondered about this Agnes

1891
Woods Cottages, Oldbury
Elizabeth Weaver 37
William Weaver 14
Harriett Weaver 7
James Weaver 3
Agnes Weaver 1

If that is Elizabeth pretending to be married but housing a mixture of siblings and kids? Then in 1901 James is with his sister Mary Ann

1901
John W Barnett 25
Mary A Barnett 26
James Weaver 13
William Barnett 5
Thomas Barnett 2

William is housing the elderly James

1901
Rounds Fold no 14
William Weaver 24
Hannah Weaver 19
James Weaver 76

so what happens to Agnes and Harriett?

[Northern Lass]

Where is Elizabeth on 1901?

Think you have something there with Agnes
1889
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
WEAVER Agnes Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/79/386

[Northern Lass]

An Ancestry tree has John Weaver marrying Elizabeth JOnes and having Harriet James and Agnes

1883
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WEAVER John JONES Elizabeth Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/005/379


if that checks out Elizabeth could be wife of John