I think that John who marries Winnifred is a Carpenter not sure
wot is a Polisher ...John snr on marriage is Polisher....does that mean furniture?
1881 3 Bk 14 Howe St Aston, Warwick,
John EBBERN 72 Sowe, Warwick, Aged Winfred EBBERN 70 Sowe, Warwick, Frederick OWEN Boarder 45 Macclesfield, Cheshire, House Painter Ann OWEN 51 Shropshire, Frederick OWEN 18 Wednesbury House Painter
can we track him back?
I think he is the one with that Ann she must die but no John with that couple
the marriage of John and Winnifred may hold more info
and what is this John with Winnifred on all the census ie occup
1871 213 Lawley Street, Aston John Ebbern 65 - Carpenter - b Warwick, Warwickshire Winnifred Ebbern 63 - b Long Buckby, Northamptonshire Rosa Hannah Biggs 20 - Niece - Millner - b Birmingham Susan E Prosser 9 - Boarder - b Middlesex London
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Poss 1841 Enly Lane, Foleshill John Ebbeon 30 - Farmer Ann Ebbeon 35 both b in c
living in same house Mary Whiting 75 - Ind Lucy Amos 15 - F S - n b in c Thomas Parritt 15 (looks like Parrish) - M S Thomas Morris 60 - Ag lab John Turner 15 - M S others b in c
1851 113 Old Brook, Foleshill John Ebbers 43 - Farmer of 276 acres, employing 4 - b Foleshill Ann Ebbers 45 - b Foleshill Thomas Parrill 19 (looks like Parish) - Farm labourer - b Coventry William Russell 47 - Servant - b Kenilworth Thomas Russentin 42 - Servant - b Hacconby? John Russentin 13
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THOMAS BOURN SMITH SARAH BARRATT Marriage: 22 NOV 1847 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick,
wonder if this could be Ebourn ?
a long shot but is it there marriage below ?
1881 Bk 98 Dartmouth St. Aston, Warwick Thomas SMITH Head 64 Birmingham, Warwick, Gun Finisher Sarah SMITH Wife 61 Birmingham, Warwick, also John SMITH Head 35 Birmingham, Warwick, Boiler Maker Martha SMITH Wife 40 Northampton, Button Carder Mary Ann SMITH 10 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar John Thomas SMITH 8 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar George Fredk. SMITH 3 Birmingham, Warwick,
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THOMAS BOURN SMITH SARAH BARRATT Marriage: 22 NOV 1847 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick,
wonder if this could be Ebourn ?
a long shot but is it there marriage below ?
1881 Bk 98 Dartmouth St. Aston, Warwick Thomas SMITH Head 64 Birmingham, Warwick, Gun Finisher Sarah SMITH Wife 61 Birmingham, Warwick, also John SMITH Head 35 Birmingham, Warwick, Boiler Maker Martha SMITH Wife 40 Northampton, Button Carder Mary Ann SMITH 10 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar John Thomas SMITH 8 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar George Fredk. SMITH 3 Birmingham, Warwick,
Well that is very very interesting Pete...wonder if it could be! need that looked up......
What if Thomas Bourn Smith is his father and actually.....a Thomas John Ebbon or John Thomas Ebbbon there was some talk before about 2 brothers falling out and one of em changed their name....what better name to change it to than Smith!!
So we have Thomas Ebbon Smith
notice the job Gun finisher...well a finisher of guns could be surely called a Polisher too
and look what he calls his son a Thomas J Ebbon.
Perhaps that is why he is a Smith on 1881 (parents automatically gave enumerator the name Smith) but he reverted back when married to orginal name ie Ebbon 1881 Bk 98 Dartmouth St. Aston, Warwick Thomas SMITH Head 64 Birmingham, Warwick, Gun Finisher Sarah SMITH Wife 61 Birmingham, Warwick, also John SMITH Head 35 Birmingham, Warwick, Boiler Maker Martha SMITH Wife 40 Northampton, Button Carder Mary Ann SMITH 10 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar John Thomas SMITH 8 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar George Fredk. SMITH 3 Birmingham, Warwick, found that marriage i was on about
that marriage will be interesting if looked at
THOMAS BOURN SMITH SARAH BARRATT Marriage: 22 NOV 1847 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick,
1881 Bk 98 Dartmouth St. Aston, Warwick Thomas SMITH Head 64 Birmingham, Warwick, Gun Finisher Sarah SMITH Wife 61 Birmingham, Warwick, also John SMITH Head 35 Birmingham, Warwick, Boiler Maker Martha SMITH Wife 40 Northampton, Button Carder Mary Ann SMITH 10 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar John Thomas SMITH 8 Birmingham, Warwick, Scholar George Fredk. SMITH 3 Birmingham, Warwick,
So I think we need to explore this Thomas Smith find him on all previous census What u think?
I think there are 2 possible births... if died 18 may 1902 June 1845 ( ie may/June regis) March/June 1846 regis
Births Jun 1846 SMITH John Harry Aston 16 184
Births Jun 1845 SMITH John Aston 16 185
there is that one I flagged earlier but it is March 1845 and John Ebbon would have been 57 in 1902 when he died SMITH John *ins Aston 16 242
the one that strikes me is the John Harry one he calls one of his kids that I think...Henry ebbon dob Dec 1884 later called Harry