ARC TBC.............Who does this James Hadley connect to?

[Rob]

1901 census James Hadley age 52 visitor born Oldbury.Who does he connect to?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =432918559

1901 12 Albion Street,Tividale,Rowley Regis
William Clift head 29 Blacksmith(General) b.Cradley Heath
Florrie Clift wife 27 b.Oldbury
Elsie Clift daug 3 b.Rowley Regis
Laura Clift daug 6 months b.Rowley Regis
James Hadley visitor 52 b.Oldbury

There was a James Hadley living 2 doors away from Florence Clift nee Hadley 1881 Back Lane,Oldbury.
This Back Lane was it renamed Pool Lane approx 1891?
There seem to be Cakemore connections as well.
George Hadley Florence's father was living in Cakemore at the time of his marriage to Tamar Holloway in 1873.

[MarkCDodd]

1851 census transcription details for: Stone Street

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2024
Folio: 476
Page: 39
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Oldbury
Parish:
Enum. District: 3F
Ecclesiastical District: Oldbury
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Stone Street
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HADLEY, George Head Married M 35 1816 Coal Miner N K
HADLEY, Hanah Wife Married F 33 1818 Quinton, Worcestershire
HADLEY, Sarah Daughter F 13 1838 Oldbury
HADLEY, William Son M 11 1840 Oldbury
HADLEY, George Son M 10 1841 Oldbury
HADLEY, Mary Ann Daughter F 8 1843 Oldbury
HADLEY, Thomas Son M 6 1845 Oldbury
HADLEY, Benjaman Son M 5 1846 Oldbury
HADLEY, James Son M 2 1849 Oldbury
HADLEY, Hanah Daughter F 1 1850 Oldbury

[MarkCDodd]

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: HADLEY, James
Registration district: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1849
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 18
Page no: 625

I can't find his Baptism at St John's.

[Rob]

I saw that Mark but in 1861 there's no James living with this family.

[MarkCDodd]

This is them.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

George was born in Derbyshire.

I think they converted to Mormon and moved to the USA.

His wife was Hannah Brown.

name: George Hadley
event: Marriage
event date: 30 Apr 1838
event place: Duffield, Duffield, Derbyshire, England
gender: Male
age:
marital status: Single
estimated birth year:
father: Joseph Hadley
mother:
spouse: Hannah Brown
spouse's age:
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's estimated birth year:
spouse's father: George Brown
spouse's mother:
film number: 1041431
digital folder number: 004451967
image number: 00385

You will find at least 20 Ancestral files with him in at familysearch.

[Rob]

Where was his son James born 1849 in 1861? Dead?
If so who's the James Hadley in 1901 living with William Clift?

[Rob]

And Mark it's not George Hadley born Derbyshire.The one on BCC was born Halesowen.It's another George Hadley married to Hannah living in Derbyshire.

[Northern Lass]

where is he in 1911 this james
1901 12 Albion Street,Tividale,Rowley Regis
William Clift head 29 Blacksmith(General) b.Cradley Heath
Florrie Clift wife 27 b.Oldbury
Elsie Clift daug 3 b.Rowley Regis
Laura Clift daug 6 months b.Rowley Regis
James Hadley visitor 52 b.Oldbury

any likely marriage for him?

[Rob]

Why was he with William Clift on the night of the census of 1901.Did it mean he spent the night there or he was just visiting albeit for a cuppa?
Would this mean,if he was head of a family,he wouldn't be mentioned in any other household?

[Rob]

I can't find a James Hadley on the 1911 census that seems to belong to this one.

[MarkCDodd]

I have looked at the Chelsea Pensioners in case he was in the Army. Nothing.....

I will try the Merchant Navy and other "travelling" professions.

[Northern Lass]

There is one a James Hadley married to a Jane living in Oldbury on 1911
with her in 1901 I think
son called Ephraim

found that interesting cos the name connects here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =864699466

Henry Hadley is the line down to Florence Hadley

Ephraim is a brother to Henry

tried to find the family of Wm and Sarah on 1851 but couldnt.

I just wondered if that was James down twice on 1901
and is he connected to Ephraim born 1836?

[Rob]

Thank you for your help.
Can you define visitor for me please?

[MarkCDodd]

Where is Doddenham?

I have in my notes about Sarah that she possibly moved to Cradley and was born in Doddenham.

There is another Sarah married to a Martin Hadley and I think a lot of people get the two mixed up.

[Northern Lass]

Rob this James could have been staying the day or night at house and so
could be in 2 places in 1901 so not a lodger visiting family....friend a rellie

cant see him on 1911
annoying no occup for this James but he is married

maybe check all marriages see if a likely one
we have some on bcc already for James Hadley.

the one in 1849 born Oldbury as you say not on 1861 so poss dies?

dunno stuck on who this James Hadley is