ARC TBC - John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

[Bibliogirl]

Ahh and i see Joseph b in 1796 was also listed as a shoemaker...

[Northern Lass]

This is a nightmare

I think this lot ....
John son of John Dunn and Sarah his wife was born Black Delph in the Parish of Kingswinford 28.1.1810 Registered by John Dunn. (His father?)
Benjamin son of John Dunn and Sarah his wife born Black Delph in the Parish of Kingswinford 9.11.1811. Registered by John Dunn.
Martha da of John Dunn and Sarah his wife was born Black Delph in the Parish of Kingswinford 16.11.1813. Registered by John Dunn.
David son of John Dunn and Sarah his wife was born Black Delph in the Parish of Kingswinford 29.11.1815 Registered by John Dunn.
John son of John Dunn and Sarah his wife was born Brettell Lane in the Parish of Kingswinford 1.1.1817. Registered by John Dunn.
Joseph son of John Dunn and his wife Sarah was born Brettell Lane in the Parish of Kingswinford 2.9.1819. Registered by John Dunn.
Elizabeth da of John Dunn and his wife Sarah was born Brettell Lane in the Parish of Kingswinford 26.7.1825. Registered by Thomas Brindley.

are somehow part of this lot
1841 Delph Kingswinford
next to this Benjamin
Benjamin Dunn 30 Stocktaker
Sarah Dunn 30 dress maker
Caroline 7
Samuel 3
David 7 mths
all yes born in County
next door is
Joseph Dunn 45 Shoemaker
Sarah 45
Joseph Dunn 20
John Dunn 15
William Dunn 13
Martha Dunn 10
Emma Dunn 8
Henry Dunn 5

1851 Pit street Kingswinford
Joseph Dunn head married 54 b KIngswinford
Sarah Dunn wife 60 b Broseley Salop
William Dunn son 25 coalminer
Emma Dunn dau 20
Henry Dunn son 17 boatman
all others born Kingwinford

1871 13 Delph Lane Kingswinford
Joseph Dunn 74 cordwainer b Delph Kingswinford
Sarah Dunn wife b Delph
next door is a David Dunn aged 30 and wife Ann b Delph

[Bibliogirl]

Yes, it is a nightmare

When i have a brick wall, it's a really thick wall

I saw the new thread you started, maybe some fresh eyes will help. I'm thinking the shoemaker thing might help. Thank you for all your work on this!

[Northern Lass]

Yes, it is a nightmare

When i have a brick wall, it's a really thick wall

I saw the new thread you started, maybe some fresh eyes will help. I'm thinking the shoemaker thing might help. Thank you for all your work on this!

BG I know you are not keen on that death certif for John Dunn but it may help us
and for a Sarah....might get lucky with informants name

other than that I am out of ideas need fresh eyes on this

[Northern Lass]

did we find a death for a Sarah dunn netherton sort of age 70+

does anyone have a likely burial for her maybe at St thomas?

[Bibliogirl]

Looking at this with a fresh mind on it, I would think that Sophia must be a sister, you have all the proof you need with Jesse's daughter being in her household as Niece, could this baptism be Sophia:-

Sobey Dunn- christening: 25 Dec 1803 SAINT THOMAS,"‹DUDLEY,"‹WORCESTER,- parents: John Dunn,"‹ Sarah

1841 Upper Netherton, Dudley
John Dunn 70 lab
Sarah Dunn 70
William Dunn 35
Sarah Dunn 25

HTH Linell.

Ok, just to be clear you are talking about the death certs for this john and sarah correct?

[Northern Lass]

Yes it may or may not help

RF found this
30 Jul 1843 St Andrew Netherton Sarah DUNN Netherton Died 23 Jul 1843 Age 66yrs

and there is this at Dudley
1843
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DUNN Sarah Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/009/325


Then for John there is this but we dont know the age so would need to say you only want it if age is within a certain age
there are 2 possibles
1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DUNN John Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/020/458


and

1847
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DUNN John Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/017/406


if you apply online at dudley regis office dont put the ref no in as they may be incorrect
give them wide parameters
John is 70 on 1841 ....I would ask for 65-80

and that Sarah same

say living Netherton perhaps upper netherton
I think the sarah one will be the one above

you never know sometimes the informant is such a help but then it may be no help
you don't have to order anything of course

[Bibliogirl]

I've ordered the John and Sarah Dunn death certs from Dudley and I also ordered Sophia Barnsley's death from the GRO (her death was listed as Stafford, Staffordshire).

We found two possible christenings for Sophia:

Sobey Dunn, 25 Dec 1803, John & Sarah, Saint Thomas Dudley

Sophia Dunn, 29 Aug 1802, Thomas & Mary, Brierly Hill

Would there be birth certs registered with Dudley for these? Worth ordering?

[Northern Lass]

I've ordered the John and Sarah Dunn death certs from Dudley and I also ordered Sophia Barnsley's death from the GRO (her death was listed as Stafford, Staffordshire).

We found two possible christenings for Sophia:

Sobey Dunn, 25 Dec 1803, John & Sarah, Saint Thomas Dudley

Sophia Dunn, 29 Aug 1802, Thomas & Mary, Brierly Hill

Would there be birth certs registered with Dudley for these? Worth ordering?

no they are archives look ups only no certifs before 1837
we have looked at these in transcripts and no more info
but if you go to Look up requests you can pop a post on under Dudley look ups and get them checked at dudley archives
someone might be going in the new year....I dont think there will be more info you only get occup and abode of parent after 1812

[Bibliogirl]

these might help as you have his burial date

Bereavement Services office

http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/info/200167/ ... crematoria

I took a look at this site, but it wasn't clear how I could use the site. I know that Jesse died in Wednesbury, West Bromwich, but I don't know where he was buried. Could the folks in Sandwell look that up for me?

[Northern Lass]

Might be worth writing to Smethwick archives asking them which would be nearest church or cemetary
I think they charge for look ups by the hour
you would need to ask them.

But they should be able to give you the nearest church

so many churches he could be buried in a church or cemetary.

Ask Smethwick archives what they advise or maybe someone on here will know
I dont know the area

anyone else any advice for BG pls

[Northern Lass]

moving this to Brickwalls BG

let us know when you get those death certifs we can run with further

[Northern Lass]

Hi BG I have slotted Jesse as son of Sophia whilst we work onit

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =902843990

do you have the death certif for sophia? just wondered what age is on it

[BC Wench]

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