ARC TBC..............William Worton

[Northern Lass]

Got a marriage which I think is mistrans
Sarah Weston should be I think Worton
on image done by 2 hands maybe clerk and vicar
Entry with names and res one hand
then underneath where X of and wits and vicars name looks like vicars hand

which to me looks like we have
Sarah Weston
then in other hand
Sarah Worton

which fits here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =880510171

marriage to Samuel Harper

she dies before 1851

but on 1851 with Samuel is a Wm Worton b abt 1836 lye

I think it maybe this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =213685663

he is a William Hamblett but when marries is a Wm Worton as mother Jemima Meredith marries Hamblett then Joseph Worton.

Wm Worton /Hamblett is on 1861 next to Beri Knowles who marries Jane Meredith

Q is Wm Worton aged 15 born Lye lodger with samuel harper the same one as here

1851: Waste Bank, Lye
Joseph Worton 49 Horse Nailmaker Cradley, Worc
Jemima Worton 45
Ann M Hamblett 21 Dau In Law U Nail Forger
Henry Hamblett 17 Son In Law
William Hamblett 15 Son In Law
Joseph Hamblett 12 Son In Law
Elizabeth Hamblett 9 Dau In Law Lye
Jane Hamblett 6 Dau In Law
others borm Wollescote

[Jimmy]

1841. Beefeaters Field, Oldswinford, Worcs.
Richard Hamlett 35. Nailer.
Jamima Hamlett 35.
Thomas Hamlett 15.
Ann Hamlett 11.
Henry Hamlett 8.
William Hamlett 5.
Joseph Hamlett 3.
Sarah Hamlett 1.

All b.i.c.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jimmy

So looks like Wm Hamblett is the one that changes his name to Wm Worton on marriage

but is he the 15 year old lodger with Samuel Harper in 1851 and recorded twice on census
can someone post the 1851 pls for Samuel harper

[Jimmy]

Richard Hamlet.
bride's name: Jemima Meredith.
marriage date: 13 Dec 1824.
marriage place: Old Swinford,Worcester.
indexing project (batch) number: M04027-1.
system origin: England-ODM.
source film number: 527938, 527939, 527940, 527942, 527943, 533992, 533993, 533994, 533995, 533996.

[Jimmy]

1851. High Park, Cradley.
Samuel Harper 29. Wid. Nail forger.
Eliza Harper 5. Dau.
Temperance Harper 3. Dau.
Willm Worton 15. Lodger. Nail forger. Lye.

Others born Cradley.

[linell]

Could be this Wm Worton Jan, not sure who he belongs to?

1841 High Park Cradley
William Worton 40 (56 in 1851)
Mary 35 (62 in 1851)
Temperance 19
Sarah 17
Betsey 15
David 13
William 4 (Probably a Grandson)

Vicars Notes have him in 1857 William Nailer Lye (Church?) Mary Lye (Church) No Children
Same household 195 is Benjamin Harper Labourer (Church Seldom) or Lye (Church) brother of 194 who is Samuel Harper
Benjamin's Wife is Elizabeth No Church or Lye Church. (Think Vicar thinks they all have an association with Lye Church)

This is the link - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

Sorry if I have gone off on a wild goose chase, but they all seem to inter-connect .

[Northern Lass]

Thanks yes you are right that looks like him

so Benjamin and Samuel are bros as per connection made good

and William Worton we dont know who he belongs to

[Northern Lass]

do we have this Wm Worton on the 1861 and later census pls
does he marry?
not the one married to Emma cox

[linell]

Think this must be him Jan:-

1861 High St Cradley Worcs
Wm Worton HD M 29 Chainmaker Cradley Worcs
Silvey Wife 27 Cradley
Emily Worton 7 Cradley
Mary Worton 3 Cradley
Elizabeth Worton 10 Months Cradley

Think it must be this Marriage?

1853 WORTON William FIELD Sylvia Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/012/320

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

But on that Vicars notes in 1857 is he single? does it say he is with a wife?

[rockyfowler]

4 Apr 1853 St Thomas Dudley
William WORTON F B Chain Maker Dudley Father William Worton Bayornet Forger
Sylvia FIELD M S Dudley No Father given
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Mary Ann Robinson X / William Robinson

[linell]

Yes you are right Jan, can't be him. Many thanks for the look up RF will add that later, I know who Wm the Bayonet Forger is . Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Yes you are right Jan, can't be him. Many thanks for the look up RF will add that later, I know who Wm the Bayonet Forger is . Linell.

Thanks Linell yes pls to adding that in

So we have that Wm in 1851 with Samuel Harper
Then we have him prev in 1841 with G.father Wm Worton aged 4

I wonder if he is Sarah Wortons son? Sarah bit young though to have him
or Temperances son

and we cant find him in 1861.

[linell]

I suppose William was Sarah's son & Benjamin's Step Son! Perhaps their ages are a bit out? It did happen? Will add the other Marriage when I get on the PC later.

Wm Worton and Sylvia Field now on Jan:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =475166271

[Northern Lass]

Ok thanks Lin

So before I archive this can anyone see this Wm on the 1861 pls
or a likely marriage .....not the one to ann harper I have added that in.

I think Sarah is mother may add Wm as son with note