ARC TBC - John Dunn, father of Jesse Dunn

[Bibliogirl]

John and Sarah Dunn buried a son named John on 28 Nov 1810 at Brierly Hill...so probably not our John unless there are two sets of John/Sarah.

[Bibliogirl]

Meant to send this too:
"England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JHTK-L84 : accessed 25 Nov 2012), John Dunn, ; citing reference it2, FHL microfilm 1470582.

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added john here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=45726153

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John and Sarah Dunn buried a son named John on 28 Nov 1810 at Brierly Hill...so probably not our John unless there are two sets of John/Sarah.

they often renamed late children after dead one so you could have two or poss 3 children with the same name

also note the source is easy that means its not from actual record but submitted by someone actual records are OMD

[Bibliogirl]

This is the christening information that was found a day ago. Jesse was listed as John in an early census, and was born abt 1818 on all census data. Northern Lass (?) posted a look-up request on this information to see if John (the father) was a gardener to see if it matches the marriage register for Jesse/Thirza. Hopefully this can be checked soon. I haven't found any birth information yet.

name:John Dunn
gender:Male
baptism/ch ristening date:02 Mar 1817
baptism/christening place:
SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name:John Dunn
mother's name:Lydia
indexing project (batch) number:
C04014-3
system origin:
England-ODM

source film number:
378765, 378766, 378767

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anyone got PR for Brierly Hill

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This is the christening information that was found a day ago. Jesse was listed as John in an early census, and was born abt 1818 on all census data. Northern Lass (?) posted a look-up request on this information to see if John (the father) was a gardener to see if it matches the marriage register for Jesse/Thirza. Hopefully this can be checked soon. I haven't found any birth information yet.

John Dunn
02 Mar 1817 baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

father's name: John Dunn
mother's name: Lydia

indexing project (batch) number: C04014-3
system origin England-ODM
source film number: 378765, 378766, 378767

it was mentioned that jesse could be poss john and called jesse to save confusion in the family as weve seen this before it might not be correct its what we call a fishing trip,

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name: John Dunn
baptism/christening date: 01 Apr 1770
baptism/christening place: Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
father's name: Jos. Dunn
mother's name: Elizh. Dunn
indexing project (batch) number: C03015-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470582

01 Apr 1770 John of Jos. & Elizh. Dunn
1770 Baptized (Baptism)
Collection: Staffordshire: Brierley Hill - Registers of Baptisms and Burials, 1766-1800
source Staffordshire, England, Extracted Parish Records

Thos. Dunn
baptism/christening date:25 Sep 1768 Brierley Hill, Stafford,

father's name: Joseph Dunn
mother's name: Elizth. Dunn

indexing project (batch) number C03015-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470582
reference number: p11 it1

25 Sep 1768 Thos. & Joseph & Elizth. Dunn
Book: 1768 Baptiz'd
Collection: Staffordshire: Brierley Hill - Registers of Baptisms and Burials, 1766-1800
source Staffordshire, England, Extracted Parish Records


conecting them

bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =685193364


i think john born c 1770 could be the father of jesse as his brother is thomas father of sophia

this sophia is the person who Thirza Dunn was visiting in the 1861 census

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can we track these downings

1861 CENSUS
At Blackheath, Rowley Regis
Sophia Barnsley Head 57 Grocer b. Worcestershire, Dudley
Eliza Downing Daur 22 b. Worcestershire, Dudley
Joseph Downing Son-in-law 24 Coal Miner, Engine feeder at Colliery b. Worcestershire, Dudley
Thirza Dunn Visitor 9 b. Stafford, Wednesbury
William Plumb Grandson 3 b. Stafford, Rowley

and

USA 1880: At Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania

Jesse Welletts 34 Foreman in Glass (looks like) 'House"
Sarah Welletts 38 Keeps House
Jesse Welletts 15 works in (looks like) 'House"
Joseph V. Welletts 14 works in (looks like) 'House"
Edward Welletts 11 works in (looks like) 'House"
Sarah Welletts 8 Goes to School
George Welletts 7 Goes to School
Leah Welletts 4 at home
Harry Welletts 2 at home
Ernest Welletts 8m
James Downing Boards 20 Laborer
Last 6 children born in Pennsylvania so by 1869 they are in America

james might be the son of eliza and joseph or joseph brother ?

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no james older enough

1871 Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis

Joseph Downing 34 colliery engine driver, dudley
Eliza Downing 32 dudley
Emma Downing 7
Joseph Downing 4
Mary M Downing 1
rest rowley regis


1881; 53 Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis

Joseph Downing 44 colliery engine driver, dudley
Eliza Downing 42 dudley
Joseph Downing 14 gas fitting sewer ?
Mary Maria Downing 11
Annie Sophia Downing 9
James Downing 4
rest rowley regis

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james going back out ?

sailed 11 aug 1900

James Downing
Arrival Date: 18 Aug 1900
Birth Date: abt 1860
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Lucania

married, glass worker, us citizen, dis on pier

also joseph downing, 25 single, glass worker, us citizen, dis on pier

[Bibliogirl]

6am here on the East Coast of the U.S. it is wild working with this time difference

I'll try to digest all the updates at lunch today. I'm thrilled that someone could check on the baptisms so quickly!

You guys are the best!

[Northern Lass]

Got bapt for Wm on IGI not got Sarahs...b abt 1815?
Wm and Sarah may be couple as r'ship not shown on 1841 for moment deleted Sarah b 1815

[Northern Lass]

hmmmmm fly in ointment

name: John Dunn
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Nov 1805
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Dunn
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378764
reference number:

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That submitted bap for john and thomas i confirmed is ok

name: John Dunn
baptism/christening date: 01 Apr 1770
baptism/christening place: Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
father's name: Jos. Dunn
mother's name: Elizh. Dunn
indexing project (batch) number: C03015-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470582

01 Apr 1770 John of Jos. & Elizh. Dunn
1770 Baptized (Baptism)
Collection: Staffordshire: Brierley Hill - Registers of Baptisms and Burials, 1766-1800
source Staffordshire, England, Extracted Parish Records