Bridon/Brydone

[denimmaterial]

Hello everybody,

I'm new to this forum and have only been actively constructing my own and my husband's family trees for a month or so. My own family lines have been relatively easy to track back in the various census lists (I am using Find My Past), but my husand's have been much more difficult.

I am trying to find the father of my husbands grandmother, Ada Bridon. She was born at Kirby Moorside, Helmsley in 1872. She only appears twice, once when she was 18 (in the 1891 census) and working away from home as a domestic servant, and then her marriage in 1898. This means that I can't find her father and mother in earlier census lists. I realise that I may have to order a birth certificate, but if I can find out without this expense, I would prefer it.

I have tried looking for any * Bridon in Kirby Moorside over a wide period, and the only possible name that came up was David Bridon, b.1842. Apparently Ada's father was the village tailor at Kirby Moorside, so he may be listed somewhere?

Any suggestions about where else to look would be appreciated, or I will have to bite the bullet and order a birth certificate.

[Jimmy]

Could this be the marriage.

Name: Ada Hannah Bridon.
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1872.
Registration district: Helmsley.
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding.
Volume: 9d.
Page: 405.

Joseph Newton Cotton.
groom's birth date: 1874.
groom's age: 24.
bride's name: Ada Bridon.
bride's birth date: 1873.
bride's age: 25.
marriage date: 26 Aug 1898.
marriage place: St. Aidan, Benwell, Northumberland.
groom's father's name: Joseph Cotton
bride's father's name: John Bridon.
groom's marital status: Single.
bride's marital status: Single.
indexing project (batch) number: M00913-5.
system origin: England-EASy.
source film number: 1564654.
reference number: it 7, p 120, no 239.

[denimmaterial]

Hi Jimmy

Yes, thank you. I have this which is the marriage between my husbands grandmother and grandfather. What I want is some earlier reference that will give me the name of her father.

[denimmaterial]

Sorry, I've just realised that Ada's father's name is listed. I'll try to track back using this name. Thank you.

[denimmaterial]

Hi Jimmy

YES!! That's him. Confirmed by his occupation initially as tailors apprentice, then as tailor. So grateful - I can move on now.
Thank you.

[denimmaterial]

Sorry Jimmy, that last reply was a bit incoherent! Past my bedtime!!

I looked up John Bridon in Find My Past using the variants option and found him in the 1851 and 1861 census as well as his marriage in 1866. His occupations as apprentice tailor in '51 then tailor in nearby Malton in '61 confirmed that this John was the right one despite being listed as John Britton. So now I'm on my way again, thanks to your help.

Just one tip for any other beginners - get a good UK Atlas that lists all villages, because where somebody was born often indicates you've found the right person. I use an old Geographia Road Atlas of Great Britain that lists every name in its index that is on the maps - 95 pages, 146000 approx. entries.

I have found it to be invaluable.

[SRD]

I don't suppose it will make much difference when searching, but the town is actually spelled Kirkby Moorside. If the search engine you are using isn't as flexible as some it might not be picking up on your queries.

[Jimmy]

Is this him,
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866.
BRIDON John. LENG Annie. Kirbymoorside All Saints, Ryedale. Harrogate. C33RY/1/451.

1881. Kirkby Moorside, Yorkshire.
John Bredin 39. Widow. Tailor. Salton Oswardkirk.
Frederick Bredin 14. Tailors app. Kirkby Kinddi, Yorkshire.
Kate Bredin 6. Kirkby Kinddi, Yorkshire.
Edward Crosher Garbutt 20.

[Jimmy]

1871. Kirkby Moorside, Yorkshire.
John Briden 27. Journeyman tailor. Salton, Yorkshire.
Sarah A Briden 26. Kirkby Moorside, Yorkshire.
John W Briden 4. Son. Kirkby Moorside, Yorkshire.
Frederic Briden 3. Son. Kirkby Moorside, Yorkshire.

[denimmaterial]

I'm pretty sure the first one is right. The reason is that Ada, his daughter, was born in 1873 in Kirkbymoorside and that's where this John Bridon was living just two years earlier. Also he was a tailor there, which I know from family knowledge.

I can't find the second one in the 1881 census. I'm using Find My Past. What genealogy service do you use? Is there much to choose between the various ones on offer? There seems to have been more than one branch of the Bridon family who were tailors. Very confusing.

Thank you for your help.

[denimmaterial]

Sorry, I got it all wrong. The one I think is right is the John Briden who married Sarah, not the one who was widowed. There's another reason why I think the widowed one is not the right one, and that is because there is no sign of Ada (1873) who would be just 8 years old.

[denimmaterial]

Sorry again. I think I'd better go and have a lie-down. Of course Ada wasn't born in 1871! Argh!

[Jimmy]

Annie Leng and Sarah Ann could be the same person.

[denimmaterial]

Jimmy, However John Bryden married (probably) Sarah Ann Tattersall in 1862.

[rogerneilson]

This seems to have become far less than a specific census lookup request so moved to General Discussions

Roger