Lois SMART(Might be Black Country) 1861 ish

[Lulu]

As I said, I had looked at some Ancestry records, so haven't checked this one myself but there is said to be a christening Date
23 FEB 1862 St Thomas Dudley, Parents Samuel Smart and Jane.

Samuel Smart and Jane Bate married 1854 (St James I think, need to check that) Dudley.

[Lulu]

Yes, on West Mid Free BMD as St James

[Northern Lass]

could dau of daniel Lois b 1861 be at home in 1881 and down as dau unm but should say widow?

[Lulu]

SMART, Samual Head 33 Worcestershire
SMART, Jane Wife 34 Worcestershire
SMART, Mary Ann Daughter 12 Worcestershire
SMART, Lidia (Lydia) Daughter 9 Worcestershire
SMART, Samual Son 6 Worcestershire

Address Sunny Side, Crook & Billy Row County Durham

I didn't find this record before, only the 1881 Census, when they had moved to Burton.

This really throws up something interesting. Who is Lydia?

I have found a birth registration for her SMART, Lydia Dudley 1862 Jan-Feb-Mar Volume no: 6C Page no:138

Lydia isn't with them in 1881 and it opens up a whole new can of worms. Might this possibly be the girl who married James Hayden? (Trying not to build my hopes up) Really need to get that marriage looked up, or send for the cert!

In answer to that last question NL, I don't think it seems likely as there is the Lois that marries in Dudley in 1885, to Henry York. Would a young woman, widowed only a few weeks, maybe even days, drop her married name, especially as she then married later when she was using the surname of Hayden.

[Lulu]

This is driving me slightly round the bend now.

1871 Samuel and Jane have a 9 year old Lidia living with them. Funny spelling, doesn't look as if it is Lois but the writing is a bit iffy.

So I look for a Lydia Smart, yes there is one registered as a birth in the same first quarter of 1862 as Lois, in the Dudley area.

Looked for a Baptism and here we have from the LDS site
Lydia Smart
baptism/christening date: 02 Feb 1862
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
birth date: 07 Jan 1862
father's name: Joseph Smart
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-7
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378778, 378779, 378780

We have a baptism for Lois Smart, also from the LDS site

name: Lois Smart
baptism/christening date: 23 Feb 1862
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
birth date: 04 Feb 1862
birthplace:
father's name: Samuel Smart
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Jane
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-7
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378778, 378779, 378780

So it is now looking possible that the death of a Lois Smart in the mid 80's, yet not registered until 1870, has been assigned to Samuel's daughter by family researchers, under the assumption that Lois had died, as she doesn't appear on the 1871 Census. However, they do have a daughter, born in 1862 with a christian name starting with L. There isn't another Lydia Smart coming up as a birth in 1862, or 63. So, Is Samuel's daughter really Lois? The one he had baptised? Is Lidia a mistake on the Census, or maybe a pet name, to avoid confusion in the family, as she has an Aunt Lois?

I hope the answer will be on Lois's marriage record. If her father is down as Samuel, we might have cracked the mystery.

[Lulu]

Thinking of taking a trip up to Lichfield Archives, to look this marriage up!

[Jimmy]

Samuel Smart and Jane Bate married 1854 (St James I think, need to check that) Dudley.

Samuel Smart.
bride's name: Jane Bate.
marriage date: 22 Sep 1854.
marriage place: St. James Church Parish, Dudley, Worcester.
groom's father's name: James Smart.
bride's father's name: Joseph Bate.
groom's marital status: Single.
bride's marital status: Single.
indexing project (batch) number: M00978-6.
system origin: England-EASy.
source film number: 1470599.
reference number: Item 1 p206 #412.

[rockyfowler]

SMART Lois HADYN James Burton-upon-Trent, Christ Church East Staffordshire 241/03/139 1880

[Lulu]

Thanks boys

I'm going up to Rowley tomorrow afternoon, so think a trip into Lichfield, to have a look at that Smart/Haydn marriage, in the morning is on the cards. Quickest way for me to get an answer, as it has completely filled my head for the last five days, so much so, I haven't done my German, college homework.

I'm sort of dreading it really, I know what I want the answer to be but is life that kind?

[Lulu]

Just booked myself into Lichfield for tomorrow morning. Standing room only apparently!

[rockyfowler]

They may Have some look ups from smethwick list if you have time best RF

[Lulu]

They may Have some look ups from smethwick list if you have time best RF

I have a fairly tight itinerary RF for the whole day and evening but aside from that, they said there were no seats left and the lady I spoke to is going to help me look, so I got the impression I was being squeezed in, as I only had one record I wanted to find. I'll see if there is any chance though.

[Lulu]

Well worth the trip today.

Found the marriage and it looks as if I was on the right track.

18th April 1880 Christ Church, Burton upon Trent

James Hayden 30 Bach Residence B-O-T. Tailor. Father John Hayden Tailor.

Lois Smart 20 Spinster Residence B-O-T. Father Samuel Smart Miner.

After Banns.

Witnesses appear to be Walter Henry Polden and Mary Anne Polden. Definitely starts with a P, the vowels are a bit iffy.

[Northern Lass]

Great so it is that Samuel I will add to Bcc nice one Lulu

Marriages Jun 1879
LEWSLEY William Burton 6b 418
Plested Rebecca Burton 6b 418
Polden Walter Henry Burton 6b 418
Radford Mary Annie Burton 6b 418

[Lulu]

Great that we have a new branch of Smarts to add to the collection

Trouble is, already got them back to 1841 on the Census, not sure I can take then much further now. However, am really pleased to have untangled this mystery and what a surprise, the Northern born friend, who now lives in the East Midlands and yet some of her Ancestors comes right from the heart of my own family area in the Black Country! Thanks for the help on this.