ARC TBC - George White - 1865 - 1948

[whitebowron]

I would like ideas of how to proceed next.

George White was born in Southall, Middlesex about 1865 (Parents - David White and Mary Ann Meers)
In the 1871,1881,1891 and 1901 census George was living in Oldbury, Worcestershire
He married Hannah Bradbury in 1887 in Stourbridge, Worcestershire

I am unable to locate George on the 1911 census. Hannah is in Oldbury with some of their children and is recorded as being married.
I have been unable to find George in military records,or elsewhere in the census records for 1911.

The closest matches I have found is for:
George White (correct age, born Middlesex) in Gloucester Lunatic Asylum. He is recorded as being single, but I assume this could be an error. the records also state that he was born in Marylebone and not Southall.

If I made the trip to Gloucester archives would any records show me further information that might help such as where he was admitted from?
Any other ideas where I could look?

Thank you, Wendy

[Antie Em]

Hello Wendy

I found a marriage for George White and Hannah Bradley - 1887/235 - St Paul, Blackheath (Stourbridge District)

I can't see that George would have been in a Lunatic Asylum in Gloucester, there were nearer ones to Oldbury. He may have been on a night out somewhere and whoever he was staying with didn't include him in their census, or he might have been in hospital.

Not all military records have been recorded. I had to go to Kew to find my granddad's records in the Boer War.

If you post a request on the Military section of this forum, someone might be able to help.

There is a death for George White in June Qtr 1948, Rowley Regis, Aged 80 - up the road from Oldbury

Good Luck - Maggie

[whitebowron]

Thanks Maggie
I have his BMD certificates, just annoying me that I can't find his whereabouts for 1911 census. As you say he was probably out at the time - there is a line above Hannahs on the census, maybe it was left for him to be filled in later
Wendy

[18chestnut]

Hello Wendy ,I have a George White in my family ,he married my great-aunt Hannah (Annie)Bradley in 1885.

They are on the 1911 census living in Cradley Heath, Staffordshire.He is listed as being a labourer in the chain works ,but in later life he was a bricklayer.

Pat

[whitebowron]

Thank you Pat

Unfortunately I do not think it is the correct family.
Do you happen to know the name of his parents?
The parents of 'My' George White were: David White and Mary Ann Meers

Wendy

[18chestnut]

Hello Wendy ,my George White was the son of George White and his wife Ellen (nee Homer).He was born in Halesowen in 1863, and he always lived in the Black Country.
I knew he wasn"t your George, but he was the George White who married my great=aunt Annie (Hannah)Bradley in 1887(not as I previously said 1885).
So sorry I cannot help to find your George in 1911.
Good Luck Pat

[peterd]

George White was born in Southall, Middlesex about 1865 (Parents - David White and Mary Ann Meers)
In the 1871,1881,1891 and 1901 census George was living in Oldbury, Worcestershire
He married Hannah Bradbury in 1887 in Stourbridge, Worcestershire

Hello Wendy ,my George White was the son of George White and his wife Ellen (nee Homer).He was born in Halesowen in 1863, and he always lived in the Black Country.
I knew he wasn"t your George, but he was the George White who married my great=aunt Annie (Hannah)Bradley in 1887(not as I previously said 1885).
So sorry I cannot help to find your George in 1911.
Good Luck Pat

if the george white isnt the same then either whitebowron or chestnut 18 have got the wrong marriage ?


what is your line of acsent whitebowron ?

[peterd]

this your 1911 pat


1911; 11 Queen Street, Cradley Heath, Staffs

George White 50 labourer (chain wks)
Annie White 50 gornal woods (married 26 years)
William White 20 fitter (bolier wks)
James White 15 labourer (bolier wks)
Wilfred White 12
John T White 10
Doris White 6
rest Cradley Heath
9 born 7 living 2 died

[peterd]

1901 11 Queen Street, Cradley Heath, Staffs

George White 37 bricklayer labourer
Annie White 38 chainmaker
William White 10
James White 5
Wilfred White 2
John T White 3 Months
Martha Bradley 26 boarder (poss annie sister ?)
all born Cradley Heath


so poss mar
WHITE George BRADLEY Hannah 1887 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/002/235


1901 and 1911 kids ages & names correct and martha boarder & married 26 years ? in 1911 slightly out as are parents age but i would say this is the same family and martha and annie are proberly sisters as address is the same in both census

[peterd]

1891; 11 Queen Street, Cradley Heath, Staffs

George White 28 brickyard labourer
Annie White 27 chainmaker dudley
Coley White 3
William White 8/12
Rest RR

still same address

[peterd]

1881 High St. Wollaston

Edward Bradley 37 commercial traveller
Rosamond Bradley 33 Bidford, Warwickshire
Annie Bradley 14
John E. Bradley 12
Martha Bradley 10
Alice G. Bradley 8
Rosamond Bradley 5
Lillian Bradley 4
Edith Bradley 1
Esther Perkins 21 domestic general servant
rest dudley


poss annie and martha (still no mention of her called hannah yet ?)

[peterd]

there hannah and martha here daug of james and mary a worton


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1881. 133 Congreaves Road, Rowley Regis
James Bradley, head, 46, Coal Miner,
Mary A, wife, 47,
Hannah, daur, 19, Chain maker
Thomas, son, 16, Coal Miner
Elizabeth, daur, 13, Dudley Wood
Martha, daur, 11, Puddle ?
James H, son, 6, Puddle ?
Josiah, son, 4, Cradley Heath
All others born Gornal.


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =900304658

[peterd]

chestnut and whitebowron any one got this marriage info ?


WHITE George BRADLEY Hannah 1887 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/002/235

[whitebowron]

peterd - I haven't got the marriage certificate to hand, but will get it as soon as my brother returns from holiday. For now this is the info I have.
Unless otherwise identified all the births were registered for Oldbury, Worcestershire.


1901 RG13; Piece: 2717; Folio: 63; Page: 22.
Popes Lane , Oldbury, worcs

George White 35 circular sawyer (wood) ( London)
Hannah White 35 wife
Joseph White 14 glass grinder
Arthur White 12
Mary Ann White 8
William White 7
Elsie White 2
George White 4 months

1891 : RG12; Piece: 2265; Folio 100; Page 26; GSU roll: 6097375.
Parsonage Passage, Oldbury, Worcs
George White 25 Sawyer (Middlesex, London)
Hannah White 25
Jospeh White 4
Arthur White 2
George White 3 months

1881 RG11; Piece: 2839; Folio: 21; Page: 36; GSU roll: 1341681.
2 Popes Lane, Oldbury

George White 15 scholar (Southall)
Mary Ann White 45 Mother
Betsy White 18 sister
Mary Ann White 15 (Southall)
William White 12
Sophia Jane White 9
Arthur White 5
James White 4

1871 RG10; Piece: 2976; Folio: 28; Page: 1;
41 Tat Ban, k Oldbury

George White 5
David White 38 (father) Boatman
Mary Ann White 35
Sarah A White 13
Betsy White 9
Mary Ann White 5
William Samuel White 2
Joseph White 10 months

William Samuel, younger brother of George, is my paternal Great-great grandfather.

[peterd]

1911; 53 Parsonage Street, Oldbury

Ann White 45 langley (married 24 years crossed through)
Arthur White 22 Tube Drawer
Mary Ann White 18 Hinge Worker
William White 17 Grinder
Elsie White 12
George White 10
Ann Maria White 8
Edith White 6
Samuel White 5
Lily White 9/12
rest born Oldbury
14 born 10 living 4 died


whitebowron you have any birth cert for above kids ?
if lily is george kid then he was around in 1909 down as married so poss at work or pub ?