In 1861 Census James Grainger aged 4 is shown as son of James and Elizabeth Grainger who married in St. Andrews Dudley in 1856
1861 Census Salt Well Coppice Kingswinford Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Insull Head 65
Phoebe Insull wife born Oldswinford Worcs.
Noah Jones son.in.law 29 Nailer
Ann Jones dau 28 born Oldswinford Worcs.
Seabra Jones grd.dau 7
James Jones grd.son 3
Matthew Jones grd.son 6mths.
James Grainger son.in.law 28 Boatman born Dudley Worcs.
Elizabeth Grainger dau 20
James Grainger grd.son 4
However in 1871 he is shown as a boarder and named James Thomas Insull
1871 Census Salt Wells Kingswinford Stourbridge Worcs.
James Grainger Head 39 Boatman
Eliza Grainger dau 31
Sarah Ann Grainger dau 11 Scholar
Jethro Grainger son 9 Scholar
Jacob Grainger son 7 Scholar
James Thomas Insull boarder 14 Scholar
All born Kingswinford Staffs.
Sarah Ann Grainger grd.dau 1
Rest born Kingswinford. Staffs.
He then goes on to marry a Louisa Russon
RUSSONLouisaINSULLJames TDudley, St ThomasDudley Register Office204/034/245 1877
and is found on later Census records as James Thomas Insell
Why if parents married in 1856 and he was born 1857 was his name changed to Insell ?
Completed Grainger or Insell
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Completed Grainger or Insell
Last edited by mumbles on Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Grainger or Insell
Births Sep 1856.
Insull James Thomas. Stourbridge. 6c. 169.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1856.
INSULL James T. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/043/399.
Insull James Thomas. Stourbridge. 6c. 169.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1856.
INSULL James T. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/043/399.
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Re: Grainger or Insell
James Thomas Insull.
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Aug 1857.
Baptism/Christening Place: Quarry-Bank, Stafford.
Father's Name: Blank.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Insull.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01348-7.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040915.
Reference Number: 548.
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Aug 1857.
Baptism/Christening Place: Quarry-Bank, Stafford.
Father's Name: Blank.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Insull.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01348-7.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040915.
Reference Number: 548.
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Re: Grainger or Insell
Name: James T Insell.
Birth: abt 1857.
Death: Mar 1922 - Dudley, Staffordshire.
Birth: abt 1857.
Death: Mar 1922 - Dudley, Staffordshire.
Re: Grainger or Insell
Thanks Jimmy,
That means he was born out of wedlock before Elizabeth married James Grainger so I will change to James Thomas Insell father unknown
That means he was born out of wedlock before Elizabeth married James Grainger so I will change to James Thomas Insell father unknown
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Re: Completed Grainger or Insell
Joseph Ensell.
Bride's Name: Phebe Dilworth.
Marriage Date: 16 Dec 1821.
Marriage Place: Old Swinford,Worcester.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04027-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 527938, 527939, 527940, 527942, 527943, 533992, 533993, 533994, 533995, 533996.
Bride's Name: Phebe Dilworth.
Marriage Date: 16 Dec 1821.
Marriage Place: Old Swinford,Worcester.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04027-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 527938, 527939, 527940, 527942, 527943, 533992, 533993, 533994, 533995, 533996.