"completed" John Thomas Homer son of Eli - born Dudley

[expat66]

Another BC soldier ...

Name: John Thomas Homer
Birth Place: Dudley, Worcs
Residence: Dudley
Death Date: 9 Oct 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Stourbridge, Worcs
Rank: Private
Regiment: Worcestershire Regiment
Battalion: 1/7th Battalion
Number: 45233
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

and from CWGC...

HOMER, JOHN THOMAS
Rank:
Private
Service No:
45233
Date of Death:
09/10/1917
Regiment/Service:
Worcestershire Regiment

1st/7th Bn.
Panel Reference
Panel 75 to 77.
Memorial
TYNE COT MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Eli Homer, of 11, Fountain St., Dudley.

There is this Eli Homer on BCC ... could it be John's father?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... mer-Family

1881 : 19 Fountain Street, Dudley
John Homer, Head, 52, Miner - Coal (Out of employ)
Betsy Homer, Wife, 52
Sarah Homer, Daur, 20, Nailer
Rosanna Homer, Daur, 16, No Occupation
Eli Homer, Son, 14, Whitesmith (Polisher)
All Born in Dudley

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[expat66]

Possible marriage for Eli?

will post for lookup..

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1895
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOMER Eli STEADMAN Mary A Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/007/188

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[MarkCDodd]

No even a K.I.A. on his medal card.

[MarkCDodd]

Not the same address as CWGC.

1911 census transcription details for: 17 Tetnall St Dudley

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN17443 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED20 SN243
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Dudley
Parish: Dudley
Enum. District: 20
Address: 17 Tetnall St Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HOMER, Eli Head Widower M 45 1866 General Labourer Dudley Worc
HOMER, John Thomas Son M 14 1897 Errand Boy Dudley Worc
HOMER, Albert James Son M 13 1898 School Newsboy Dudley Worc
HOMER, Frederick Son M 11 1900 School And Newsboy Dudley Worc
HOMER, Nellie Daughter F 8 1903 Dudley Worc
HOMER, Eliza Daughter F 6 1905 Dudley Worc

[MarkCDodd]

The family at the address in 1911.

1911 Census transcription details for: 11 Fountain St Dudley

National Archive Reference: RG14PN17443 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED20 SN303
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Dudley
Parish: Dudley
Enum. District: 20
Address: 11 Fountain St Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HADEN, Sarah Ann Widow F 69 1842 Dudley Worcs
NIX, Maria Boarder Single F 53 1858 Fender Painter Dudley Worcs

[expat66]

Thankyou Mark,
So are we looking at a different Eli?
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[sp1]

There are three John T Homers born in the period 1895-1900 on WestMidsBMD:
1895 Rowley Regis
1896 Dudley
1900 Rowley Regis

I suggest the 1896 one is most likely - what are the chances of more than one of them having a father named Eli? - can we see the other two in 1911?

Not familiar with Fountain St - is it by any chance connected to the other street mentioned, and therefore the house may have been listed at different times in different streets if it was on the corner of the two, or did the family simply move about a bit?

[sp1]

In 1901 there is only one John Homer born in this period with father Eli listed in whole of England:

35 Constitution Hill
Eli Homer 35 Clayworks labourer
Mary Ann 25
John 5
Albert J 3
Fredk 1
Elsie M 1 month
Elizabeth Harper 13 Servant
All born Dudley

So looks like same family

[expat66]

Thanks sp1

I will try and find some time to add the info. to BCC over the next couple of days

This thread is OK to archive for now
Thankyou
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