"completed" Frederick Allen,b.1880 W. Bromwich & relatives

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Don't think any of these are on BCC

1901. 53, Lime (?) Terrace, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Samuel Asbury, 24,head,married, engine (fitter) boiler yard, born oldbury
Eunice,23,wife, born West Bromwich
Frederick Allen,20, brother-in-law,unmarried, army Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry, born West Bromwich
Sarah Dyas,71, visitor,married, nurse(?) monthly, born Powick, Worcs.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1900
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ALLEN Eunice ASBURY Samuel Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/5/60

1881. 21 Sams lane, West Bromwich
Ezekiah Allen,28,head, married, shingler at iron works,
Eliza,26,wife
Elizabeth,6,daughter
Eunice,3,daughter
Frederick,1,son
All born West Bromwich

Don't know whether this is Frederick?
From CWGC

ALLEN, FREDERICK
Rank: Private
Service No: 10007
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Regiment/Service:
South Staffordshire Regiment

1st Bn.
Panel Reference
Panel 73 to 76.
Memorial
LOOS MEMORIAL

Expat

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UK soldiers died in the Great War..
Name: Frederick Allen
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffs
Residence: Brierley Hill, Staffs
Death Date: 25 Sep 1915
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Stourbridge, Worcs
Rank: Private
Regiment: South Staffordshire Regiment
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Number: 10007
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Expat

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hi expat,
10007 pte frederick allen south staffs is the only frederick allen listed in the west brom book of rememberance

he was the son of issacher allen of moor street, west bromwich

it was a family of soldiers!, frederick's brother 7898 pte issacher allen (reservist) of the duke of cornwall light i. missing 21st october 1914 later listed killed . they found his id tag but not him

9884 pte job allen of the cheshires lost his left eye in the war

10208 pte james allen of the royal welsh fus. wounded in hip and spent 28 weeks in hospital

beardie

[feral-underclass]

i think this is from the brummie newspaper 'picture world'

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Thankyou for all that info. Beardie
Gosh there is alot of info. there isn't there

I will try and add to BCC when I have a spare minute

Also found this

1911. 18,Little Chapel Street, Sams Lane, West Bromwich
Issacher Allen,58,father, married, nightwatchman at ironworks
Lois Allen,20,daughter, single
Both born West Bromwich

Expat

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Some more info. for Issacher ( not sure which is really correct spelling of his name? ... I suppose the name on the registration records would be the correct one?)

Birth Registration from FreeBMD
Name: Issachar Allen
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1852
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 509

Death Registration
Name: Issachar Allen
Birth Date: abt 1852
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1922
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 781

1871. 45,Newhall St, West Bromwich
Job Allen,55, head, widower, puddler in iron works, born Brierley Hill
George,22,son, unmarried, puddler in iron works
Isaica,18,son, unmarried,puddler in iron works
Sarah A,16,daughter, housekeeper
David,13,son, forge sweeper?
Eliza,11,daughter
Others born West Bromwich

1861. Sams Lane, West Bromwich
Job Allen,44,head, married, puddler, born Brierley Hill
Eliza,40,wife
Job,17,son, unmarried, puddler
George,12,son, puddler
Lannen(?),11,daughter
Hezekiah,8,son
Sarah Jane,6,daughter
David,3,son
Eliza,1,daughter
Others born West Bromwich

Expat

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And more...

1901. 18, Little Chapel Street, West Bromwich
Issachar Allen,49,head,widower, night watchman iron works,
Issachar Allen,19,son, unmarried, steam hammer driver carriage? works
Job,16,son, brass caster?
Jim,13,son, painter, railway wagon
Lois,10,daughter, born Oldbury
Others born West Bromwich

Expat

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frederick's brother 7898 pte issacher allen (reservist) of the duke of cornwall light i. missing 21st october 1914 later listed killed . they found his id tag but not him

beardie

From CWGC
ALLEN, ISSACHAR

Rank: Private
Service No: 7898
Date of Death: 21/10/1914
Regiment/Service: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry

1st Bn.
Panel Reference Panel 19.
Memorial LE TOURET MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

Expat

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and from UK soldiers died in the Great War ...
Name: Issachar Allen
Birth Place: W. Bromwich, Stafford
Residence: W. Bromwich
Death Date: 21 Oct 1914
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Birmingham
Rank: Private
Regiment: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Number: 7898
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Also looks as though this Issachar was married..... looking at 1911 census...

1911. 52,Pleasant Street, West Bromwich
Issachar Allen,29,head, married for less than one year, no children, blacksmith's striker railway company
Priscilla Allen,22,wife
Both born West Bromwich

Marriage ? ...

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ALLEN Issachar REYNOLDS Priscilla West Bromwich Register Office (WBRO) Sandwell Register Office WBRO/50/148

Expat

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Possible marriage for the Issachar who was the father of all these boys

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ALLEN Issachar PHILLIPS Eliza West Bromwich, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 25/3/338

Will post for lookup
Expat

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I have started adding info. to BCC ..... still some more to add yet but have run out of time for now.
.... should get the rest added over the next couple of days.

On BCC here ...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =155521361

This thread is OK to archive
Thankyou
Expat