Headstone Inscription
gallery/image_page.php?album_id=148&image_id=3110
not on BCC
1911: 79 North Street, Netherton
Abraham Homer 25 Head Married 6 yrs, children 4/4/0 Labourer (Ironworks)
Beatrice Homer 25 Wife
Harry Homer 6 Son
John Homer 4 Son
Alice Homer 2 Dau
Gladys Homer 2 mths Dau
(all born Netherton)
West Midlands Marriage 1905
HOMER Abraham KITSON Beatrice Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/012/3
Abraham Homer born 1886
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Abraham Homer born 1886
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
Requested a look up on that marriage
added to BCC here - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... mer-Family
Can be archived pending please
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Can be archived pending please
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
I have notes on that family.
Abraham's father is Henry (Harry) Homer.
Henry is the son of this Joseph you already have on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/202095/10665/Joseph-Homer-Family
Details:
Joseph Homer was Baptised at St Thomas, Dudley on the 15/03/1812.
He married Mary Ann Ward on the 21/09/1846 at St Thomas, Dudley.
Mary Ann Ward father was Henry. She was born abt 1827.
Henry Homer married Roseanna (Rosanna) Round on the 22/10/1866 at Dudley.
You already have her on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/202097/24234/Rosanna-Round-Family
She was born 29/03/1848 in Dudley.
Died 12/11/1922 in Netherton.
Abraham's birth index:
Name: HOMER, Abraham
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 93
Beatrice's birth index.
Name: KITSON, Beatrice
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:6C
Page no:121
Beatrice's parents were Thomas Kitson and Sarah J Baker.
Abraham's father is Henry (Harry) Homer.
Henry is the son of this Joseph you already have on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/202095/10665/Joseph-Homer-Family
Details:
Joseph Homer was Baptised at St Thomas, Dudley on the 15/03/1812.
He married Mary Ann Ward on the 21/09/1846 at St Thomas, Dudley.
Mary Ann Ward father was Henry. She was born abt 1827.
Henry Homer married Roseanna (Rosanna) Round on the 22/10/1866 at Dudley.
You already have her on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/202097/24234/Rosanna-Round-Family
She was born 29/03/1848 in Dudley.
Died 12/11/1922 in Netherton.
Abraham's birth index:
Name: HOMER, Abraham
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 93
Beatrice's birth index.
Name: KITSON, Beatrice
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:6C
Page no:121
Beatrice's parents were Thomas Kitson and Sarah J Baker.
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
25 Feb 1905 St Andrew Netherton
Abraham HOMER 19 B Miner 13 Prince St Father Henry Homer Miner
Beatrice KITSON 19 S 68 North St Father Thomas Kitson Carter
Wit; George Homer Pheobe Ann Botfield
Abraham HOMER 19 B Miner 13 Prince St Father Henry Homer Miner
Beatrice KITSON 19 S 68 North St Father Thomas Kitson Carter
Wit; George Homer Pheobe Ann Botfield
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
starting to connect up
need marriages this one...
1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WARD Mary A HOMER Joseph Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/293
need marriages this one...
1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WARD Mary A HOMER Joseph Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/293
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
do we have a dob for Mary ann Ward pls and where born
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
mallosa wrote:Headstone Inscription
gallery/image_page.php?album_id=148&image_id=3110
not on BCC
1911: 79 North Street, Netherton
Abraham Homer 25 Head Married 6 yrs, children 4/4/0 Labourer (Ironworks)
Beatrice Homer 25 Wife
Harry Homer 6 Son
John Homer 4 Son
Alice Homer 2 Dau
Gladys Homer 2 mths Dau
(all born Netherton)
Can someone post census pls for Abraham going back
West Midlands Marriage 1905
HOMER Abraham KITSON Beatrice Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/012/3
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
need marriage info on this Mark do you have full info
1866
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOMER Henry ROUND Rose A Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/003/296
1866
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOMER Henry ROUND Rose A Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/003/296
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
On the gravestone her birth is 1888 so is that incorrect?
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
If she was born November 1888 then she was underage when she married.
The 1901 census points to 1887 birth.
The marriage points to 1886 birth.
The 1911 census points to 1886 birth.
Haven't found the family in 1891.
The 1901 census points to 1887 birth.
The marriage points to 1886 birth.
The 1911 census points to 1886 birth.
Haven't found the family in 1891.
Black Holes happen when God divides by zero.
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
You never see Henry and Joshua in the same census as their mother.
However, in 1851 Henry is listed under the surname Ward.
1851 census transcription details for: Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2028
Folio: 348
Page: 4
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 1N
Ecclesiastical District: Reddall Hill
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HOWELLS, John Head Married M 28 1823 Collier Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1817 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Henry Son M 11 1840 Collier Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Mary Daughter F 5 1846 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, John Son M 3 1848 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Esther Daughter F 0 (1 MOS) 1851 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
EDWARDS, Fanny Visitor Unmarried F 16 1835 Nurse Maid Shropshire
WARD, Henry Visitor M 5 1846 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOMER, Joshua Visitor M 3 1848 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire
1861 onwards they both use Homer.
1861 census transcription details for: Windmill End, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2039
Folio: 4
Page: 1
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: 1 Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Reddall Hill
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Windmill End, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BAWEN, Benjamin Head Married M 46 1815 Coal Miner Rowley, Staffordshire
BAWEN, Nancy Wife Married F 50 1811 Dudley, Worcestershire
BAWEN, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 Dudley, Worcestershire
HOMER, Henry Lodger Unmarried M 15 1846 Coal Miner N K
HOMER, Joshua Lodger Unmarried M 13 1848 Coal Miner N K
However, in 1851 Henry is listed under the surname Ward.
1851 census transcription details for: Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2028
Folio: 348
Page: 4
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 1N
Ecclesiastical District: Reddall Hill
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HOWELLS, John Head Married M 28 1823 Collier Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1817 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Henry Son M 11 1840 Collier Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Mary Daughter F 5 1846 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, John Son M 3 1848 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOWELLS, Esther Daughter F 0 (1 MOS) 1851 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
EDWARDS, Fanny Visitor Unmarried F 16 1835 Nurse Maid Shropshire
WARD, Henry Visitor M 5 1846 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HOMER, Joshua Visitor M 3 1848 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire
1861 onwards they both use Homer.
1861 census transcription details for: Windmill End, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2039
Folio: 4
Page: 1
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: 1 Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Reddall Hill
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Windmill End, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BAWEN, Benjamin Head Married M 46 1815 Coal Miner Rowley, Staffordshire
BAWEN, Nancy Wife Married F 50 1811 Dudley, Worcestershire
BAWEN, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 Dudley, Worcestershire
HOMER, Henry Lodger Unmarried M 15 1846 Coal Miner N K
HOMER, Joshua Lodger Unmarried M 13 1848 Coal Miner N K
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
amended Henry to b 1846
not added Joshua b 1848 if anyone else wants to I don't have time.
we had birth for Beatrice have used that...
Beatrice's birth index.
Name: KITSON, Beatrice
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:6C
Page no:121
so where are Joseph and Mary ann homer in 1851?
not added Joshua b 1848 if anyone else wants to I don't have time.
we had birth for Beatrice have used that...
Beatrice's birth index.
Name: KITSON, Beatrice
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:6C
Page no:121
so where are Joseph and Mary ann homer in 1851?
Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
MarkCDodd wrote:If she was born November 1888 then she was underage when she married.
The 1901 census points to 1887 birth.
The marriage points to 1886 birth.
The 1911 census points to 1886 birth.
Haven't found the family in 1891.
Def Kitson on image
1891
Chapel Street, Dudley
Thomas Whitson 44 - Labourer on draw? (poss of coal)
Sarah Whitson 41
Sarah Whitson 18 - Dressmaker
Elizabeth Whitson 15 - Dom homework
Phoebe Whitson 12 - Dom homework
Betrice Whitson 4
John Wesley Whitson 4/12
all b Netherton
1881
No 10 Chapel Street, Dudley
Thomas Kitson 34 - Coalminer
Sarah Kitson 30
Edward Kitson 13
Sarah Kitson 8
Elzbeth Kitson 5
Febeur Kitson 2
all b Netherton
1871
20 Court, North Street, Dudley
Thomas Ritson 25 - Miner coal
Sarah Ritson 22
Edward Ritson 4
all b Dudley
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
Thanks FS, I've added the census for Kitson family - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family
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Re: Abraham Homer born 1886
I'm finished with this but if anyone wants to add more, be my guest
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