Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census ARC TBC

[linell]

Deaths Mar 1861
Bastefield Joseph Stourbridge 6c 96
Deaths Sep 1861
Bastefield Joseph Stourbridge 6c 68
Deaths Sep 1863
BASTABLE Joseph Stourbridge 6c 86

Shame there are no ages on here.

Linell.

[Jimmy]

Deaths Mar 1861
Bastefield Joseph Stourbridge 6c 96
Deaths Sep 1861
Bastefield Joseph Stourbridge 6c 68
Deaths Sep 1863
BASTABLE Joseph Stourbridge 6c 86

Shame there are no ages on here.

Linell.

WOR. Halesowen. St. John. 1004.
Burial.
17 Mar 1861. Joseph BASTEFIELD. age 89. Boro.

WOR. Halesowen. St. John. 1073.
Burial.
18 Aug 1861. Joseph BASTEFIELD. age 20m. Boro.

WOR. Halesowen. St. John. 1453.
Burial.
20 Sep 1863. Joseph BASTABLE. age 82. Boro.

[linell]

Thankyou Jimmy, so there were two Joseph's one a few years older than the other.

Cheers for that from Linell.

[Jimmy]

1851. Islington, Halesowen.
Joseph Basterfield 63. Bricklayer.
Mary Basterfield 66.
Elizabeth Basterfield 21. Dau.
Priscilla Basterfield 17. Grandchild.
John Basterfield 14. Grandchild.
Mary Anna Byrge 2. Grandchild

All born Halesowen.

[Jimmy]

1851. Halesowen.
F Joseph Barnfield 70. Wid. Unk. Bricklayer. Looks like Basterfield on image.
Maria Bagley 19. Lodger.
William Bagley 2. Lodger.
Ann Maria Bagley 2 Mo. Lodger.
Samuel Basterfield 14. Lodger.

Others born Halesowen.

[Jimmy]

1861.
Islington Street.
BASTABLE Joseph. head. M. M. 80. Bricklayer. WOR. Halesowen.
BASTABLE Mary. wife. M. F. 70. WOR. Halesowen. Blind 7 years.
BASTABLE Elizabeth. dau. U. F. 29. Nailer. WOR. Halesowen.
BASTABLE Joseph. son. U. M. 18. Nailer. WOR. Halesowen.
BYNG Mary A. grndau. F. 12. Nailer. WOR. Halesowen.
BASTABLE Eliza. grndau. F. 10. Scholar. WOR. Halesowen.
BASTABLE William. grnson. M. 5. Scholar. WOR. Halesowen.
BASTABLE John. lodger. U. M. 29. Day Labourer. WOR. Halesowen.

[linell]

I have Joseph with Maria Bagley in my tree here:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=95815522

1851. Halesowen.
F Joseph Barnfield 70. Wid. Unk. Bricklayer. Looks like Basterfield on image.
Maria Bagley 19. Lodger.
William Bagley 2. Lodger.
Ann Maria Bagley 2 Mo. Lodger.
Samuel Basterfield 14. Lodger.

He must be the Joseph who Married Rebecca. Think the key to this is who were Samuel aged 14's parents? Will have a look.

Many thanks for posting that Jimmy, cheers from Linell.

[Jimmy]

1851. Islington, Halesowen.
Joseph Basterfield 63. Bricklayer.
Mary Basterfield 66.
Elizabeth Basterfield 21. Dau.
Priscilla Basterfield 17. Grandchild.
John Basterfield 14. Grandchild.
Mary Anna Byrge 2. Grandchild

All born Halesowen.

Poss marriage,
WOR. Halesowen. St Johns. 53. 209.
30 Mar 1807. Joseph BASTABLE. Otp. Bachelor.
Mary WHITE. Unk. Spinster.
Thomas WHITE, Ann WHITE,

[Frances]

It is said that having an unusual surname makes it easy to research. Nonsense!!

I am looking for Joseph and Rebecca in 1841 to confirm where they are as I have landed up researching all the Basterfield/Bastable lines to make sense of it all . Also having 2 Josephs of similar ages makes it difficult so I do have to follow both of them. In fact 3 as there is another Joseph and Mary in Birmingham of similar age.

I have transcribed all the St. John BMD's and extracted all the B's, I think.

Sarah is baptised 20.9.1822 to Joseph and Rebecca but this does not fit with Sarah Attwood's age on Census unless it is a late baptism. Yes, there is a big gap.

Samuel Basterfield I cannot fit into a family unless he is Samuel Woodhouse, son of Hannah WOODHOUSE who marries Thomas BASTERFIELD 21.7.1844 at St. Johns. Samuel born 1837

Regards deaths of Josephs I have found at St. Johns:-

Joseph Basterfield aged 89 Borough 17.3.1861
Joseph Basterfield aged 20 months Hasbury 11.8.1861.
Joseph Bastable aged 82 Borough 20.9.1863

I do have the death certs and will pass on the information I have on Benjamin which thank goodness is quite straightforward.

Apologies for causing such confusion!!!

[linell]

Hi Frances, sorry but it does not look like Joseph Bastefield Widower is in Halesowen in 1841 The only other query is Sarah Basterfield/Bastable, the one who Married Joseph Attwood, we really do not know who she belongs to Thanks for posting this information, I connect to most of the people mentioned, being Halesowen born and bred, it is helpful to re-check everything over again. Linell.

[Northern Lass]

so do we need to look that bapt for sarah up at archives the one born 1822?
see what it says
as not in transcripts.

[Northern Lass]

1851. Halesowen.
F Joseph Barnfield 70. Wid. Unk. Bricklayer. Looks like Basterfield on image.
Maria Bagley 19. Lodger.
William Bagley 2. Lodger.
Ann Maria Bagley 2 Mo. Lodger.
Samuel Basterfield 14. Lodger.

Others born Halesowen.

is this the one we cant find in 1841?

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[linell]

1851. Halesowen.
F Joseph Barnfield 70. Wid. Unk. Bricklayer. Looks like Basterfield on image.
Maria Bagley 19. Lodger.
William Bagley 2. Lodger.
Ann Maria Bagley 2 Mo. Lodger.
Samuel Basterfield 14. Lodger.

Others born Halesowen.

is this the one we cant find in 1841?

HI Jan, no this one not around in 1841, this is why Sarah who Married Joseph Attwood has been stuck in the family of Joseph and Mary. Both Joseph's bricklayers, probably connected somewhere in the distant past. I am sure that Sarah is his daughter. She has been added to the Joseph and Mary tree, squashed in between think it was James 1815 and Elijah 1817.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

isnt Sarah living next to a James though her brother?

if we need to alter the tree let me know what you think we need to alter
I am lost on this now