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Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census ARC TBC

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Hi, I wonder if anyone has found Joseph and Rebecca (Powell) in Halesowen, possibly Islington, in 1841. Have searched using all sorts of variations but nothing so far.

Rebecca Basterfield dies in Islington 23 June 1850 aged 70, witnessed by Sarah Attwood and Joseph Bastefield 11 March.1861In Birmingham Street, aged 87 again witnessed by Sarah Attwood.
It would be great to see if they had any children or grandchildren with them in 1841 to confirm things. I begin to wonder if they are in France but can find no evidence.

Thanks in advance if anyone has stumbled over them. Frances B
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Can't see Joseph and Rebecca in Halesowen Shropshire 1841, but I did find a Marriage in 1845 S/B Regis between Joseph Attwood and Sarah Basterfield, so your Sarah Attwood could have been a daughter?

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There is also a daughter called Rebecca:-

1851 Islington Halesowen
Joseph Attwood HD M 37 Nailer Cradley
Sarah Wife 37 Nailer
John Son 17 Nailer
George Son 10 Nailer
Jane Da 6
Rebecca Da 1
All others born Halesowen

Looks to me as though Rebecca was named after her Nan who died that year.

Just found this already been done by Jan:-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ood-Family

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Re: Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census

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Many thanks for such a quick reply. Great to have it confirmed that they do not appear on the 1841 Census. Just hoping someone had spotted them.

Yes Sarah was the daughter of Joseph Basterfield and married Joseph ATTWOOd in 1845. In 1841 she is Sarah BASKERFIELD with son George and Joseph ATTWOOD living together in Islington. In 1835 she had an illegitimate son, John BASKERFIELD who becomes John ATTWOOD in 1851 but is John BASTABLE in 1841 aged 6 living with Joram and Ann/Mary Ann Willetts. Joram married Ann BASTABLE in 1830 at St. Johns. John married Elizabeth Mathews 25.2.1856 at St. Johns and gives his father as John Allen- Blacksmith. When he marries Ann JACKSON in 1864 he does not give a father so maybe I will never know the answer unless someone knows who John ALLEN - Blacksmith was. Another Brick Wall!! Thankfully John goes to Barrow and stays a BASTERFIELD and a blacksmith for the rest of his life!!

I have the baptism for Sarah BASTABLE born to Joseph and Rebecca20.9.1822 which I have to presume is a late baptism as this does not fit with the census returns which show her birth as 1815/16. It would also mean that she had John at 13 if this is the correct Sarah but she says she is 25 in 1841 so I guess she was baptised late.

For the record little George BASKERFIELD in 1841 does become an ATTWOOD and marries Ann MOORE 11.7.1869 St. Johns. Joseph ATTWOOD was baptised 24.3.1816 at Cradley, son of George ATTWOOD and Sarah BURLEY who married at St. Johns 27.12.1790.

Thanks for your help. Frances
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Re: Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census

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I am confused...

On Bcc we have Sarahs marriage father is Joseph a Bricklayer
3 Nov 1845 St John Halesowen
Joseph Attwood of full age bach nailer Hasbury George Attwood nailer
Sarah Basterfield of full age spinster nailer Hasbury Joseph Basterfield Bricklayer
Banns
X both
Wit- X Hannah Basterfield /George G Fiddian

we have mother as a Mary for Sarah

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =238074087

that Joseph is a Bricklayer on 1851

Brother James Basterfield is near Sarah on 1841

Is Sarah with the wrong family on Bcc?
is there another family with father Joseph a bricklayer and mother Rebecca?
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I am so pleased that others are confused! I have been confused for the past 20 years changing between Joseph and Rebecca (Powell) and Joseph and Mary (White). Still cannot be 100% sure without any proof which is why I was seeking some confirmation with the 1841 entry.

Common sense tells me that Sarah is the daughter of Joseph and Rebecca but my gut feeling is that she is the daughter of Joseph and Mary. She is in limbo on my Tree still.

Thank you so much for the entry on BCC for Ann, daughter of Joseph and Mary who marries William Hackett as I had not found this marriage. Is it a St. Johns one that I have missed? On the death cert for Joseph Bastable who died 13.9.1863 in Islington aged 88 Bricklayer the witness is Ann Hackett of Islington and I had no idea who she was. So many Hacketts in Islington. Great confirmation.

Looking at the info for Joseph and Mary on BCC I see that my 3 x Grandfather Benjamin is missing. At St Johns there are 3 births and 2 deaths of Benjamins.

Joseph and Rebecca have Benjamin Baskerball 25.12.1821. Mason. Borough.
Benjamin Bastable. Infant dies 6.2.1822

Joseph and Rebecca have Benjamin Bastable 12.9.1824. Bricklayer. Borough
Benjamin Bastable infant dies Borough 24.10.1824

Joseph and Mary Bastable have Benjamin Bastable 22.3.1822 Mason Borough.

So following dates it looks like both Benjamins of Joseph and Rebecca die infants

Benjamin Basterfield marries Elizabeth Cooksey, daughter of James Cooksey and Maria Hughes, at Clent.
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Re: Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census

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Hi Frances, if Benjamin Bastable born abt 1822 is your Gt Gt Gt Grandfather son of Joseph and Mary, why are you searching for a Joseph and Rebecca? The Joseph Bastable who died in Islington aged 88 in 1863 must have been born about 1775, where as Joseph Basterfield who Married Mary White was not born until about 1788. I am not sure who Sarah Attwood nee Basterfield's parents were, the Witness at her Marriage to Joseph was a Hannah Basterfield, she must be a sister, so where is she in 1841 :?: Where was Sarah Baptised in Sept 1822, I cannot find it in the Halesowen Register :?:

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Re: Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census

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Hi Frances can you pop a post on the Black Country Section re which ones I am missing
and I will try and add it to Bcc if I get a min.

Do you have the full death info for Joseph pls?
I can add that to Bcc then.

Did we ever find marriage for Wm Hackett and Ann Basterfield? I cant see one.

Who is the Hannah Basterfield the wit at Sarahs marriage.

do Joseph and Rebecca have any other kids
Name: Sarah Bastable
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Sep 1822
Baptism/Christening Place: HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Bastable
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01376-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 886632, 886633, 886
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Re: Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census

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Marianne Bastable
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 25 Dec 1808 HALESOWEN,"‹WORCESTER,"‹ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Bastable,"‹ Rebecca


Sarah Bastable
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 20 Sep 1822 HALESOWEN,"‹WORCESTER,"‹ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Bastable,"‹ Rebecca


Eliza Bastable
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 15 Sep 1811 HALESOWEN,"‹WORCESTER,"‹ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Bastable,"‹ Rebecca


what is occup of father on these bapts may only have it on the 1822 one in register
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Frances wrote:Hi, I wonder if anyone has found Joseph and Rebecca (Powell) in Halesowen, possibly Islington, in 1841. Have searched using all sorts of variations but nothing so far.

Rebecca Basterfield dies in Islington 23 June 1850 aged 70, witnessed by Sarah Attwood and Joseph Bastefield 11 March.1861In Birmingham Street, aged 87 again witnessed by Sarah Attwood.
It would be great to see if they had any children or grandchildren with them in 1841 to confirm things. I begin to wonder if they are in France but can find no evidence.

Thanks in advance if anyone has stumbled over them. Frances B


If Rebecca dies 1850 where is she on the 1841 can anyone find her
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I can't see her.
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Groom's Name: William Baskerfield.
Bride's Name: Rebecca Bridgwater.
Marriage Date: 20 Aug 1811.
Marriage Place: Saint Martin,Birmingham,Warwick.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01072-3.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 0919779-781, 0919782, 0919783.
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Re: Joseph and Rebecca Bastable/Basterfield 1841 Census

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Jan I think there were two Joseph's one older than the other.

Baptism for Sarah in 1822 is not on my transcript

25.12.1808 Marian daughter of Joseph and Rebecca
On same page is Ann Bastable da of Joseph and Mary said to have been born on the 4.11.1807

15.9.1811 Eliza da of Joseph and Rebecca

Big gap between Marian 1808 Eliza 1811 and Sarah 1822 :?:

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Basterfield is the worst name ever to research, so many variations. :(

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So Frances do you have death certifs for 2 Joseph Basterfields one dying 1861 aged 87 one dying 1863 aged 88
so both born round about 1775?
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