My Uncles

[BecontreeBoy]

I'm looking for two brothers ALFRED NASH b1884 and HENRY NASH b1890. I can find them on the 1891 census but after that they both disappear. They were both possibly born in St George in the East London.I have found many ALFREDS but how do I know which one is my one? I have gone through many searches on A******** but to no avail so any help would be most appreciated.

[peterd]

this them

1891; 96 mansell st, Whitechapel

George Nash 44 general dealer, City, London
Mary A Nash 41 E Smithfield, London
Alfred Nash 7 St George in the East, London
Mary A Nash 3 E Smithfield, London
Joe Nash 2 St Georges, London
Henry Nash 1 June Elms, London


1901; 30 gall st, limehouse

Mary A Nash 49 wid
Alfred Nash 19 bottle copper cellar
Mary A Nash 14
Joseph Nash 11
all born canning town

also at same address



Joseph Davey 35
Amelia A Davey 30
Susan Davey 8
Amelia Davey 4
Charles Davey 1


Henry Nash 27 costomory hawk ? Mire Elms, London (poss brother to george ?)
Frances Nash 20 Cliffe Nr Rochester, Kent


Thomas Mills 37 London City
Sarah Mills 33 Canning Town, Essex



1911 59 Devons Rd, Bromley By Bow E

Mary Ann Nash 61 wid, London east smithfields
Alfred Nash 26 COSTER MONGER (fruit & Flowers) , St Georges
Joseph Robert Nash 22 LABOURER AT BONDED WHISKY WAREHOUSE, St Georges

[peterd]

poss joseph marriage


Marriages Dec 1911
LIDDARD Emily Poplar 1c 1125
NASH Joseph R Poplar 1c 1125
Overall Ellen Poplar 1c 1125
Sime Charles P Poplar 1c 1125

[BecontreeBoy]

Hi Perterd
Thanks for your reply.
All you have found is correct to my findings. George died in 1891and left May Ann and her children. I do have one question regarding Henry. I think that on the census he was put down as being 1 year old but I suspect he was 11 years old, they left a 1 off.
My father was Joseph and he had an elder bother Henry who married Frances Molineaux who are both on the same census.
As for the Davey"™s I have looked into them and found only one connection. A witness to their marriage was a Ann Nash. Otherwise I have found no family connection.
As for Alfred, after these dates I have found references to many by this name but cannot put my finger on any who could have been related to me. My father died in 1946 and as I never lived with him through my mothers early death I could never ask any questions but I do know there was a family dispute over an inheritance with one of my fathers siblings thus the lack of information with regard to Alfred. My elder brother (91) has told me that he remembers Uncle Alfred living with them for a while when he was a young child.
So it looks as if I must just wait for something to come up with regards to Uncle Alfred.
Many thanks for your patience and regards from me.

[MarkCDodd]

The Constermany Hawk or whatever it is is the profession of Alfred's father, George Scrag Parker Nash, on Alfred's baptism.

I think he moved to New York with wife Ellen and newbord child John in abt 1910.

I am seeing if I can find his naturalisation or death to confirm....

[MarkCDodd]

The Alfred Nash in New York is living in the BRonx and ia a Waiter.

He was born in London but the date of birth on his WW1 draft card is wrong. He give it as 25th March 1887. Since the Alfred Nash we want was baptised in 1886 that causes a problem.

I will keep looking....

[MarkCDodd]

The New York Alfred Nash died in New Jersey in December 1969 and the same birth date as on the WW1 draft card is shown. So not him.....

THe is another who appears all over the shipping records for years. He works as a crewman on the ships but it looks like he was born in Wales.

[peterd]

if your saying henry could of been born 1880 wonder if this could be him age out ?



1901; 30 gall st, limehouse

Henry Nash 27 costomory hawk ? Mire Elms, London (poss brother to george ?)
Frances Nash 20 Cliffe Nr Rochester, Kent


poss marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1900

Dewbery Clarissa Rebbecca Stepney 1c 647
Molineaux Frances Julia Stepney 1c 647
Nash Henry Newton Stepney 1c 647
Skinner Frederick Stepney 1c 647


limehouse is in stepney registratyion district might be worth sending for this marriage cert ? if these two are a couple ?

[peterd]

Henry Newton Nash Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: Frances Julia Molineaux Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1900 Parish:Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: George Nash
Spouse Father Name: John Molineaux


so is george in census with alfred brother or father ?

[peterd]

1891; 96 mansell st, Whitechapel

George Nash 44 general dealer, City, London
Mary A Nash 41 E Smithfield, London
Alfred Nash 7 St George in the East, London
Mary A Nash 3 E Smithfield, London
Joe Nash 2 St Georges, London
Henry Nash 1 June Elms, London

1901

Marriages Sep 1899

Davy Joseph Woolwich 1d 2417
Nash Amelia Woolwich 1d 2417

Joseph Davey 35
Amelia A Davey 30
Susan Davey 8
Amelia Davey 4
Charles Davey 1


1881; 8 Farthing Alley, St Botolph Without Aldgate

George Nash 35 Battersea, Surrey
Mary Ann Nash 30 (nee fraser) Aldgate, Middlesex
Amelia Nash 11
Henry Nash 7
Edward Nash 1
George Nash 9
Amelia Fraser 61

[gardener]

if your saying henry could of been born 1880 wonder if this could be him age out ?



1901; 30 gall st, limehouse

Henry Nash 27 costomory hawk ? Mire Elms, London (poss brother to george ?)
Frances Nash 20 Cliffe Nr Rochester, Kent


poss marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1900

Dewbery Clarissa Rebbecca Stepney 1c 647
Molineaux Frances Julia Stepney 1c 647
Nash Henry Newton Stepney 1c 647
Skinner Frederick Stepney 1c 647


limehouse is in stepney registratyion district might be worth sending for this marriage cert ? if these two are a couple ?

Perhaps Henry's age should be 17 in the 1891 census?
And this could be him in 1911 with Frances?

Ernest Street, Mile End
Henry Nash 35 labourer general Lambeth, London
Frances Nash 30 (married 10 years, 7 children born, 2 living) tailoress finisher, Strood, Kent
Nellie Nash 8 Mile End
Kathleen Nash 3 Mile End

[Jimmy]

Henry Newton Nash Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: Frances Julia Molineaux Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1900 Parish:Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: George Nash
Spouse Father Name: John Molineaux


so is george in census with alfred brother or father ?

From Ancestry, London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921. image available.

Henry Newton Nash. Bach, Costermonger.
Age: 27.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873.
Spouse Name: Frances Julia Molineaux. Spinster.
Spouse Age: 22.
Record Type: Marriage.
Event Date: 25 Dec 1900.
Parish: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints.
Borough: Tower Hamlets.
Father Name: George Nash. Costermonger.
Spouse Father Name: John Molineaux. Labourer.
Register Type: Parish Register.

Address for both, 176 Charles St.

Both signed.

Witnesses, J Molineaux. Amelia Ann Nash.

[gardener]

Frances Julia Nash of Forest View Orange Tree Hill Havering-atte-Bower essex Widow died 18 January 1944 at Oldchurch Hospital Romford Essex Probate Llandudno 3 April to Nellie Mary Carter (Wife of Alfred Carter) Effects 223 pounds 18s 8d

Deaths Mar 1944
Nash Frances J 63 Romford 4a 630

Deaths Dec 1935
Nash Henry N 60 Stepney 1c 214

[Jimmy]

poss joseph marriage


Marriages Dec 1911
LIDDARD Emily Poplar 1c 1125
NASH Joseph R Poplar 1c 1125
Overall Ellen Poplar 1c 1125
Sime Charles P Poplar 1c 1125

From Ancestry, London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921. image available.

Joseph Robert Nash. Bach, Case maker. 35 Cottage St.
Age: 22.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889.
Spouse Name: Emily Liddard. Spinster. 27 Suffolk St.
Spouse Age: 21.
Record Type: Marriage.
Event Date: 25 Dec 1911.
Parish: Poplar St Saviour.
Borough: Tower Hamlets.
Father Name: Edward Nash. Stevedore.
Spouse Father Name: Richard Liddard. Printer.
Register Type: Parish Register.

For some reason cert was not completed and crossed out.

[BecontreeBoy]

if your saying henry could of been born 1880 wonder if this could be him age out ?



1901; 30 gall st, limehouse

Henry Nash 27 costomory hawk ? Mire Elms, London (poss brother to george ?)
Frances Nash 20 Cliffe Nr Rochester, Kent


poss marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1900

Dewbery Clarissa Rebbecca Stepney 1c 647
Molineaux Frances Julia Stepney 1c 647
Nash Henry Newton Stepney 1c 647
Skinner Frederick Stepney 1c 647


limehouse is in stepney registratyion district might be worth sending for this marriage cert ? if these two are a couple ?

Pertd.....Yes I have this marriage certificate and all is as you stated.