Hannah Eliza Hipkiss

[Northern Lass]

I have a query on this one b abt 1824 Blackheath
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =408927142

I think it is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =872770011

how do we know that Albert is her son?

and that the one that dies in 1844 is from that family?

[Northern Lass]

cant see bapt for Hannah Eliza Hipkiss or similar

maybe Ann aged 15 on census is the hannah

1841 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Staffs. William Hipkiss 40 Nailer
Sarah Hipkiss 40
Ann Hipkiss 15
Joseph Hipkiss 15
William Hipkiss 13
Emma Hipkiss 10
Enoch Hipkiss 5
Patience Clift 80
All born Staffs.

how do we know that family have an Ann Eliza?

Name: Hannah Hipkifs
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 24 Dec 1820
Baptism/Christening Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Blackheath
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Hipkifs
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Hipkifs
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04349-6
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 350577
Reference Number:

[MarkCDodd]

County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church St Leonards
RegisterNumber 50870
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 18 Apr 1830
Forename Hannah
Sex F
FatherForename John
MotherForename Nancy
FatherSurname HIPKISS
MotherSurname
Abode Bilston
FatherOccupation Blacksmith
Notes Recorded by Wm LEIGH
FileNumber 24516

[Northern Lass]

On the marriage for Hannah Eliza father is Wm a nailer
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =408927142

I think she could fit in here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =425564367

but if she does where is the bapt for her to a Wm and Sarah

and where is that ref re burial in 1844.

something isnt right

I dont know why we have an Ann Eliza with that family unless we have proof that Albert is son to Ann Eliza

and then if he is how do we know that Ann Eliza dies?....where is death info which church?

[MarkCDodd]

A few trees have Albert as the son of William Hipkiss and Sarah Clift.

William and Sarah and family 1841

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 997
Book/Folio: 2/13
Page: 19
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Black Heath, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HIPKISS, William M 40 1801 Staffordshire
HIPKISS, Sarah F 40 1801 Staffordshire
HIPKISS, Ann F 15 1826 Staffordshire
HIPKISS, Joseph M 15 1826 Staffordshire
HIPKISS, William M 13 1828 Staffordshire
HIPKISS, Emma F 10 1831 Staffordshire
HIPKISS, Enoch M 5 1836 Staffordshire
CLIFT, Patience F 80 1761 Staffordshire

In 1851 there isno designation of son for Albert....

1851 census transcription details for: Blackeath, Rowley Regis
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2028
Folio: 101
Page: 39
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 1D
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Blackeath, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HIPKISS, William Head Unmarried M 53 1798 Nailer Rowley, Staffordshire
HIPKISS, Enoch Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Nailer Rowley, Staffordshire
HIPKISS, Albert Unmarried M 6 1845 Scholer Rowley, Staffordshire
CASHMORE, Charles Lodger Married M 26 1825 Nailer Rowley, Staffordshire
CASHMORE, Emah Wife Married F 20 1831 Nailer Rowley, Staffordshire
CASHMORE, Joseph Son M 0 (5 MOS) 1851 Rowley, Staffordshire

But 1861 he is Williams grandson.

1861 census transcription details for: Black Heath, Rowley Regis
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2038
Folio: 32
Page: 21
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: 1 Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: Rowley Regis
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Black Heath, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HIPKIN, William Head Widower M 64 1797 Nailer Rowley, Staffordshire
HIPKIN, Albert Grandson Unmarried M 16 1845 Blacksmith Rowley, Staffordshire

[MarkCDodd]

Albert does not mention a father....

Groom's Name: Albert Hipkiss
Groom's Birth Date: 1844
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 25
Bride's Name: Juliana Folkes
Bride's Birth Date: 1842
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 27
Marriage Date: 09 Aug 1869
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: David Folkes
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01386-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470600
Reference Number: Item 1 en#291 p146

[Jimmy]

Births Jun 1844.
Hipkiss Albert Dudley 18 292.

1851. Blackheath.
William Hipkiss 53. W. Nailer.
Enock Hipkiss 15. Son.
Albert Hipkiss 6. No relationship put.
Charles Cashmore 26. Lodger.
Emah Cashmore 20.
Joseph Cashmore 5 Mo. Son.

All born Rowley.


1861. Blackheath.
William Hipkiss 64. Nailer. Rowley.
Albert Hipkiss 16. Grand son. Machinist. Rowley.

[MarkCDodd]

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: HIPKISS, Ann
Registration district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1844
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume no: 18
Page no: 251


I would sas Ann is the mother and died soon after.

[Jimmy]

Deaths Mar 1845.
HIPKISS Ann Eliza. Dudley. 18. 273.

[Jimmy]

Ann Eliza Hipkifs.
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Sep 1823.
Baptism/Christening Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Birthplace: Blackheath.
Father's Name: William Hipkifs.
Mother's Name: Sarah Hipkifs.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04349-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 350577.
Reference Number: 1192.

[Northern Lass]

Ok thanks will add to info

bapt checks out and burial does
so it is another Hannah Eliza Hipkiss that marres Wm Saunders

can anyone find her in 1841 pls