ARC TBC - Eliza BAKER nee Marsh (1845/7-1908)

[descartes46]

Hi guys, wonder if you can help?

My ancestor Joseph Abel BAKER married Eliza Marsh on 19 Apr 1868 in Kidderminster. From the IGI I've determined that Eliza's parents are Thomas Marsh and Eliza (both from Kidderminster). I've been fruitlessly trying to find out Eliza's (the mother) maiden name. I was hoping to find a wedding as perhaps it would be on there ... but no luck. I also thought I'd try the birth certificate of Eliza but havent been able to find it!

Any suggestions. I'm stumped until I find the maiden name.
Many thanks,
Darren

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you got the details for this marriage ? ie father job witnesses etc can you post them

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may be brother to eliza ?

1881; 3 Lion Square, Kidderminster

William Marsh 54 tailor
Lydia Marsh 56
Elizabeth Lench 37 yam winder ?
Mary Lench 81 Powick, Worcestershire
Joseph Wm. Baker nephew 12
rest Kidderminster

1871; 3 Lion Square, Kidderminster

William Marsh 46 tailor
Lydia Marsh 47
Emma Jones 16 neice factory hand
William Baker 2 lodger
all born Kidderminster

[descartes46]

you got the details for this marriage ? ie father job witnesses etc can you post them

Hi, I havent got the marriag certificate yet, but that's certainly a good idea! I'll go ahead and order a copy and see if I can gleam anything further from that.
Thanks,
D

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1861 Lion Square, Kidderminster

Thomas Marsh 42 (cart make job title out)
Lydia Marsh 36
Eliza Marsh 16
all born Kidderminster



how do you know her mother eliza and father thomas ?

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1851 Lion Square, Kidderminster

Thomas Marsh 32 hand loom weaver (carpets)
Lydia Marsh 26
William Marsh 12
Thomas Marsh 9
Eliza Marsh 6
Hannah Marsh 70 mother
all born Kidderminster



poss thomas is thomas william ?

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poss marriage

Marriages Dec 1842

BIRD Annie Stourbridge 18 573
Cox William Stourbridge 18 573
GILL Lydia Stourbridge 18 573
GWYNNE Richard Stourbridge 18 573
Marsh Parthena Stourbridge 18 573
Marsh William Stourbridge 18 573
PARSONS Elijah Stourbridge 18 573
Whatmore Susanna Stourbridge 18 573

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1841 Lion Square, Kidderminster

Hannah Marsh 60 wid
Richard Marsh 20 weaver
William Marsh 15 tailor ap

[descartes46]

1861 Lion Square, Kidderminster

Thomas Marsh 42 (cart make job title out)
Lydia Marsh 36
Eliza Marsh 16
all born Kidderminster



how do you know her mother eliza and father thomas ?

I could be completely wrong. I just assumed from the attached IGI record that these were her folks... I found it on the 'familysearch.org' website

Name: Eliza Marsh
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Mar 1845
Baptism/Christening Place: St. George, Kidderminster, Worcester, England
Father's Name: Thomas Marsh
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name:Eliza
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02909-1
System Origin:
England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040244

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1851 Lion Square, Kidderminster

Thomas Marsh 32 hand loom weaver (carpets)
Lydia Marsh 26
William Marsh 12
Thomas Marsh 9
Eliza Marsh 6
Hannah Marsh 70 mother
all born Kidderminster



poss thomas is thomas william ?

you going of this below ?

Eliza Marsh
baptism/christening date: 05 Mar 1845, St. George, Kidderminster, Worcester,

father's name: Thomas Marsh
mother's name: Eliza

indexing project (batch) number: I02909-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040244



William Marsh
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Jun 1839,: St. George, Kidderminster, Worcester,

Father's Name: Thomas Marsh
Mother's Name: Eliza

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02909-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040244
Reference Number: item 1



Thomas Edward Marsh ?
baptism/christening date: 07 Oct 1841, St. George, Kidderminster, Worcester,

father's name: Thomas Edward Marsh
mother's name: Eliza

indexing project (batch) number: I02909-1



System Origin: England-EASy is easy submitted ?

[descartes46]

1851 Lion Square, Kidderminster

Thomas Marsh 32 hand loom weaver (carpets)
Lydia Marsh 26
William Marsh 12
Thomas Marsh 9
Eliza Marsh 6
Hannah Marsh 70 mother
all born Kidderminster



poss thomas is thomas william ?

you going of this below ?

Eliza Marsh
baptism/christening date: 05 Mar 1845, St. George, Kidderminster, Worcester,

father's name: Thomas Marsh
mother's name: Eliza

indexing project (batch) number: I02909-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040244



William Marsh
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Jun 1839,: St. George, Kidderminster, Worcester,

Father's Name: Thomas Marsh
Mother's Name: Eliza

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02909-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040244
Reference Number: item 1

Yes, but it seems I was incorrect. The details you found with Thomas and Lydia and kids seem to fit much better. Thanks

[peterd]

Hi guys, wonder if you can help?

My ancestor Joseph Abel BAKER married Eliza Marsh on 19 Apr 1868 in Kidderminster. From the IGI I've determined that Eliza's parents are Thomas Marsh and Eliza (both from Kidderminster). I've been fruitlessly trying to find out Eliza's (the mother) maiden name. I was hoping to find a wedding as perhaps it would be on there ... but no luck. I also thought I'd try the birth certificate of Eliza but havent been able to find it!

Any suggestions. I'm stumped until I find the maiden name.
Many thanks,
Darren

you got any census for joseph abel and eliza ?

[descartes46]

Hi guys, wonder if you can help?

My ancestor Joseph Abel BAKER married Eliza Marsh on 19 Apr 1868 in Kidderminster. From the IGI I've determined that Eliza's parents are Thomas Marsh and Eliza (both from Kidderminster). I've been fruitlessly trying to find out Eliza's (the mother) maiden name. I was hoping to find a wedding as perhaps it would be on there ... but no luck. I also thought I'd try the birth certificate of Eliza but havent been able to find it!

Any suggestions. I'm stumped until I find the maiden name.
Many thanks,
Darren

you got any census for joseph abel and eliza ?

Yes I have all the details for him. It's his line I originally started with being a BAKER. Just trying to plug the gaps with the MARSH's etc now. Thanks.

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can you post them so we can see who living around them ?

is he a police officer ?

think the marriage cert is the best bet see if her father a weaver or tailor ?

[descartes46]

can you post them so we can see who living around them ?

is he a police officer ?

Yes, that's him

I havent kept any of the census records. My friend found them for me and I put the details on my family tree.


1848 25 Dec Birth
No.11 Moor Field Street, Claines, Worcestershire, England
1849 14 Jan ChristeningSt John the Baptist Church, Claines, Staffs
1851 Age: 3
ResidenceClaines, Worcestershire, EnglandNo.11 Moor Field Street
1861 Age: 13
ResidenceTipton, Staffordshire, EnglandSheepwash Lane - Labourer at water works
1868 19 Apr Age: 19
Marriage to Eliza Marsh Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
1881 Age: 33
Residence Handsworth, Staffordshire, EnglandThe Old House on Soho Pool Bank - Police Officer (PC46)
1901 Age: 53
Residence Northfield, Worcestershire, England26 Raddle Barn Lane - Night Watchman
1905 Age: 57
Death Registration District: West Bromwich