More 'stuff' on the Oakes's.

[Kleftiwallah]

For Peterd among others,

I managed to find time to go and bother the girls at the Wiltshire family history place today. Concentrated on trying to find out about my Great Grandad William Oakes.

Went through the 1881, 1891 and the 1901 censussses! (I found that Daller business peterd but no idea what it means). Great Grandad lived in a place called 'Gaston House' Cupernham Road Camberwell and his kids are listed, but two of them George (5) and Harry (3) were born in Salisbury Wiltshire! ! ! There was another lad, Edward 9 months old born in Winchester Hants ! ! ! Did he move his boot making business? There wasn't any sort of conscription at that time was there?

I got a surprise when I looked in the 1901 census, William Oakes was a 49 year old Son in Law to a Mrs Joesland? a widow of 68 years. at 50 Broughton Road Fulham (Sands End, wherever that is). Entry number 345

Anyone like to have a guess? Have I gone up a blind alley?

Cheers, Tony.

[Jimmy]

1911. 110 Talbot Road, Bayswater W, London.
William Oakes 59. Bootmaker. CAMBERWELL, Surrey.
Susan Ann Oakes 54. St James, Middlesex.
George Oakes 25. Son. WORKER BOOT MAKING. SALISBURY, Wiltshire.
Edward Oakes 21. Son. WORKER PASTRY COOK. Ham, Chester.
Herbert James Oakes 14. Son. St Paul, Hampshire.
Robert Bruce Oakes 10. Son. St Paul, Hampshire.
Harry Oakes 48. Brother. Single. WORKER BOOT MAKING. CAMBERWELL, Surrey.

Married 34 years. 9 children, 1 died.

[Jimmy]

Marriages Sep 1901.
Oakes William Marylebone. 1a. 1413.
SOLOMON Kate Marylebone. 1a. 1413.
TOESLAND Susan Ann. Marylebone. 1a. 1413.
Whitaker George Edward. Marylebone. 1a. 1413.

[Jimmy]

1871.
William Daller 52. Oakes on image. Boot maker. Llys, Suffolk,(Eye, Suffolk.)
Margaret Daller 44.
William Daller 19. Boot maker.
George Daller 12.
Charlette Daller 10.
Henry Daller 7.
Maria Daller 4.

All others born Peckham, Surrey.

[Jimmy]

1901. 85 Cecil Rd, Northampton.
Susan Oakes 44. Wife. London. W.
William Oakes 19. Son. Clicker, shoe trade. Hatchem, Surrey.
Charlotte Oakes 17. Dau. London. W.
George Oakes 15. Son. Salisbury, Wiltshire.
Harry Oakes 13. Son. Salisbury, Wiltshire.
Edward Oakes 10. Son. Winchester, Hampshire.
Emma Oakes 8. Dau. Romsey, Hampshire.
Herbert Oakes 4. Son. Northamptonshire.
Bruce Oakes 4 Months. Son.Northamptonshire.

[Kleftiwallah]

I think the basic problem is that I do not know how to interpret the information right before my eyes.

I entered William Oakes and Camberwell in the boxes on the Ancestry search page and automatically presumed that that was the results that came up. Are you telling me that all those Oakes's were living in Gosport? I presume I fell at the first hurdle of not looking at the titles along the top of the page?

So it looks as though the Oakes's bootmaking business moved from Camberwell to Salisbury and then onto Winchester in Hampshire and that is where the latest census was taken. . . .

I cannot thank you all enough for 'looking after me' as I stumble along. Looks like it's back to the W.F.H. Centre to re-check.

Cheers and thanks once again. Tony.