*Archived Look up done!* -Lowe family puzzle....

[Northern Lass]

Rite I have done a look up for a Thomas Levi Shilvock and an Elizabeth Lowe .....here...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =861330445

now it is Elizabeths side I am tracking.

Her father is a Joseph Lowe a Furnace man on certif and she is living at Chapel St Hasbury.

So on the 1901 I have found the family at Chapel St
1901 Chapel St Hasbury Halesowen
Joseph Lowe h m 40 Ironworker
Mary Ann Wife 38
Amos son 18 navy on pipe track
Elizabeth dau 16 nailmaker
Samuel son 15 steam hammer driver
Charles son 10
Joseph son 7
Florrie dau 5
Lillian G dau 3mths
all b Worcs Halesowen


then I noticed further down the page there is an Amos age 27 with wife Amy and kids Harry and Edward
I think this is the Amos on connections here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

this looks like the marriage
1897
LOWE Amos HOMER Amy Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/007/126
and I will add that to the list.

then in 1881 I found a Joseph Lowe with father Charles and mother Martha living Islington Halesowen
this Joseph is age 19 and a furnace man

So I am wondering if that is his family?
When did Joseph marry?
Who did he marry ?

and more importantly if his father is Charles and Amos's is Edward....how do they connect
cos why does Joseph call his son Amos and then an Amos is living near them in 1901?

Also on that 1881 this Charles Lowe is living next to Brettles and Edward Lowe married a Lucy Brettle

Can anyone sort this one out!

please!!

[Northern Lass]

ok got 2 marriages to look up

one is 1881 but dec qtr so that would tie in ie after Census night 3 April
1881
LOWE Joseph ADAMS Mary A Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/005/22



1882
LOWE Joseph CHALLINGSWORTH Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/037/286

So I can look those up but I really need to know how Amos and Joseph connect to each other.
And is father for Joseph that Charles?

what do we think

[peterd]

submitted and the submitter was a Joseph Paul BRETTLE Walsall


Edward Lowe
Birth: 1849 Haleowen, Worcestershire, , England
Death: 1890

Father: Henry Lowe
Mother: Elizabeth Hadley



extracted all henry and elizabeth


CHARLES LOWE
Christening: 21 APR 1833 Halesowen, Worcester,

ELIZA LOWE
Christening: 17 NOV 1838 Halesowen, Worcester,

ELIZA LOWE
Christening: 02 DEC 1838 Halesowen, Worcester,

SARAH LOWE
Christening: 17 APR 1836 Halesowen, Worcester,


might find them in 51 census together

[linell]

1851 Islingtonn Halesowen
Henry Lowe HD 48 All Nailers all born Halesowen
Elizabeth Wife 43
Charles Son 17
Eliza D 12
Joseph Son 10
James Son 7
Maria D 5
Edward Son 2
Joseph Partridge LG 16

Next door
Edward Franklin HD 71 Nail Maker Halesowen
Anne Wife 68 ditto
John Hadley LG W 39 Nail Maker Halesowen
Charles LG 13
Mary Anne LG 9
Phoebe LG 5

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Peterd and Linell

So does look like Charles b abt 1833 and Edward b abt 1849 and on connections are bros

-Joseph b 1861 is I think a Joseph Henry Lowe so prob named after g. father.
-Joseph calls his son Charles prob after his father and another son amos
-Edward calls one of his kids Amos and that Amos is living down road from Joseph Lowe on 1901

So I think that Henry and Eliz are parents of Charles and Edward and can be put on Connections as that.
I need to confirm that marriage of Joseph and a Mary ann ....think it will be Adams
on the 1891 living near Joseph and Mary Ann is a Samuel Adams.
need to see age on marriage, occup and father and witnesses but think we are correct....could do with some more proof ahead of look up

anyone?

[peterd]

edward c 1849

1881 Hill St Hasbury, Worcester


Zachariah JONES Head W 72 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Edward LOWE Son In Law 31 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Betsy LOWE Daur 31 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Ann LOWE G Daur 13 Halesowen, Worcester,
Eliza LOWE 9 Halesowen, Worcester,
Amos LOWE 8 Halesowen, Worcester,
Lizzy LOWE 6 Halesowen, Worcester,
Martha LOWE 8 m Halesowen, Worcester,


marriage poss 1st one c 1867 both fit though ?

LOWE Edward JONES Elizabeth 1867 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/002/258
Marriage: 09 NOV 1867 Lower Gornall, Stafford,


LOWE Edward JONES Elizabeth 1870 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/003/446
09 OCT 1870 Halesowen, Worcester,
Husband Age at Marriage: 21
Wife Age at Marriage: 20

[Northern Lass]

We have these on Connections Pete
not got census detail though
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =107560796

[mallosa]

1901: Mount? Street, Hasbury, Worc
Betsy Lowe 54 Head Wid
Ellen Lowe 20 Dau S Nail/Worker
Joseph Lowe 18 Son S Lab in Iron Works
Betsy Lowe 15 Dau Nail/Worker
Jane Lowe 13 Dau Nail/Worker
William Lowe 10 Son
Eliza Homes (Homer?) 27 M Lodger
Gladys Homes 3 Lodger b.Blackheath,Worc
all others born H/Owen


1891: Hill Street, Hasbury, Worc
Betsy Lawe 43 Head Wid Nailmaker
Eliza Lawe 19 Dau Nailmaker
Amos Lawe 17 Son Nailmaker
Lizzie Lawe 15 Dau Nailmaker
Ellen Lawe 12 Dau
Joseph Lawe 9 Son
Betsy Lawe 6 Dau
Jane Lawe 3 Dau
William Lawe 11mths Son
Zachariah Jones 84 Boarder b.Moor St, Worc

edward c 1849

1881 Hill St Hasbury, Worcester

Zachariah JONES Head W 72 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Edward LOWE Son In Law 31 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Betsy LOWE Daur 31 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Ann LOWE G Daur 13 Halesowen, Worcester,
Eliza LOWE 9 Halesowen, Worcester,
Amos LOWE 8 Halesowen, Worcester,
Lizzy LOWE 6 Halesowen, Worcester,
Martha LOWE 8 m Halesowen, Worcester,

Just come in on this, not sure it's of any help?

1871: Islington, Halesowen, Worc
Edward Lowe 21 Head Nailmaker
Betsey Lowe 21 Wife Nailmaker
Annie Jones 2 Dau
Alice Jones 6 months Dau
Zachariah Jones 63 Lodger Wid Nailmaker
all born H/Owen

1861: ??

1851: Islington, Halesowen, Worc
Zachariah Jones 44 Head M Nailmaker b.Lapal,Worc
Anne Jones 42 Wife b.Cakemore,Worc
Jane Jones 20 Dau U House Servant
Eliza Jones 14 Dau Nailmaker
Harriet Jones 12 Dau
James Jones 10 Son
Anne Jones 4 Dau
Elizabeth Jones 1 Dau
all others born H/Owen

[FarSide]

1861
50
Islington Street, Halesowen
Zeckanah Jones 52
Ann Jones 50 - b Carters lane
Jane Jones 30 - b Long lane - Charwoman
Mary Jones 27
Harriet Jones 25
James Jones 20
Bessy Jones 11
Sarah A Jones 6
Sarah Jones 3
William Jones 3
others b Halesowen and Nailors

at
51
Thomas Jones 55 - Widow - Lodger - Cobbler - Carters lane

[Northern Lass]

Thanks everyone....

Now do you think I am justified in putting Henry and Elizabeth Lowe as parents and Charles and Edward as bros
Then Charles has Joseph Henry
and
Edward has Amos

I know I need the marriage of Joseph looked up
father should be a Charles ...then
the marriage of Edward looked up to...to Lucy brettle
father should be a Henry
then need just to dble check father for Charles is a Henry
did we find a marriage for Charles and Martha

[FarSide]

Poss
1855
LOWE * Charles TAYLER Martha Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/221
LOWE * Charles TAYLOR Martha Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/221

Extracted
CHARLES LOWE
Christening: 21 APR 1833 Halesowen
Parents:
Father: HENRY LOWE
Mother: ELIZABETH

[Northern Lass]

rite thanks FS

going to look marriages up
but pretty damn sure that we have the correct joseph lots of evidence ie correct in that Josephs father is a Charles
bit sceptical on rest...

So look ups on....

Joseph and Mary ann (bet that is Adams)- is father Charles?
Edward and Elizabeth Jones -is father Henry?
Charles and Martha -is father Henry?

not too sure on the Henry Bit yet

cos who are these 2?
Charles is next door to Brettles is this Charles father and poss Edwards
or are Edward and Charles merely cousins
that census had an Edward and Charles ages matched.....

1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LOWE Edward BRETTELL Lucy Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/78


need help here guys...some clear thinking...my head is whizzin!

[Northern Lass]

Can anyone find this Edward on Census please
need to know if all the kids on Connections are correct...as 2 marriages 1867 gornal and 1870 halesowen
I would have thought the halesowen one but kids on connections coming along in 1868!

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

1867
LOWE Edward JONES Elizabeth Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/002/258

1870
LOWE Edward JONES Elizabeth Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/003/446

wot is edwards occup etc
any clues as to his father on census

[grangers14]

A possible Edward on the 1861 census,
Islington Street
Henry Loew, head, 60, nailor
Elizabeth, wife, 56
Joseph, son, 20, nailor
James, son, 17, nailor
Marin, daur, 15
Edward, son, 12
All born Haleowen.

Jo

[peterd]

there all here on the topic nl that are here on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections


1901: Mount? Street, Hasbury, Worc
Betsy Lowe 54 Head Wid
Ellen Lowe 20 Dau S Nail/Worker
Joseph Lowe 18 Son S Lab in Iron Works
Betsy Lowe 15 Dau Nail/Worker
Jane Lowe 13 Dau Nail/Worker
William Lowe 10 Son
Eliza Homes (Homer?) 27 M Lodger
Gladys Homes 3 Lodger b.Blackheath,Worc
all others born H/Owen


1891: Hill Street, Hasbury, Worc
Betsy Lawe 43 Head Wid Nailmaker
Eliza Lawe 19 Dau Nailmaker
Amos Lawe 17 Son Nailmaker
Lizzie Lawe 15 Dau Nailmaker
Ellen Lawe 12 Dau
Joseph Lawe 9 Son
Betsy Lawe 6 Dau
Jane Lawe 3 Dau
William Lawe 11mths Son
Zachariah Jones 84 Boarder b.Moor St, Worc


1881 Hill St Hasbury, Worcester

Zachariah JONES Head W 72 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Edward LOWE Son In Law 31 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Betsy LOWE Daur 31 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Ann LOWE G Daur 13 Halesowen, Worcester,
Eliza LOWE 9 Halesowen, Worcester,
Amos LOWE 8 Halesowen, Worcester,
Lizzy LOWE 6 Halesowen, Worcester,
Martha LOWE 8 m Halesowen, Worcester,



1871: Islington, Halesowen, Worc
Edward Lowe 21 Head Nailmaker
Betsey Lowe 21 Wife Nailmaker
Annie Jones 2 Dau
Alice Jones 6 months Dau
Zachariah Jones 63 Lodger Wid Nailmaker
all born H/Owen

A possible Edward on the 1861 census,
Islington Street
Henry Loew, head, 60, nailor
Elizabeth, wife, 56
Joseph, son, 20, nailor
James, son, 17, nailor
Marin, daur, 15
Edward, son, 12
All born Haleowen.

1861
50
Islington Street, Halesowen
Zeckanah Jones 52
Ann Jones 50 - b Carters lane
Jane Jones 30 - b Long lane - Charwoman
Mary Jones 27
Harriet Jones 25
James Jones 20
Bessy Jones 11
Sarah A Jones 6
Sarah Jones 3
William Jones 3
others b Halesowen and Nailors

1851 Islingtonn Halesowen
Henry Lowe HD 48 All Nailers all born Halesowen
Elizabeth Wife 43
Charles Son 17
Eliza D 12
Joseph Son 10
James Son 7
Maria D 5
Edward Son 2
Joseph Partridge LG 16


1851: Islington, Halesowen, Worc
Zachariah Jones 44 Head M Nailmaker b.Lapal,Worc
Anne Jones 42 Wife b.Cakemore,Worc
Jane Jones 20 Dau U House Servant
Eliza Jones 14 Dau Nailmaker
Harriet Jones 12 Dau
James Jones 10 Son
Anne Jones 4 Dau
Elizabeth Jones 1 Dau
all others born H/Owen