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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880

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Lulu wrote:Thanks Jo, I have such a lot, I think it would be easier if I do it.

What about Kate's Grandma, who had children, after Paul Lewett (her Husband) died and were registered as Lewett (Lewitt) but soon after were known as Davies (The man she shacked up with)? And it doesn't stop there. :roll: It's no wonder I've been putting off doing this.


use the regis name kids had
but again put unknown unknown as the father (unless you know the fathers name in which case add that instead of unknown unknown)
you can add Davies as lady's partner and click on the unmarried bit
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880

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Jo are you adding any of the info from this thread?

does it connect with the stuff you are doing?
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No I havent added anything from this. I think Lulu is.

It does connect somehow but dont know how :?
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grangers14 wrote:No I havent added anything from this. I think Lulu is.

It does connect somehow but dont know how :?
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ah! I thought it connected to your batemans
never mind :(
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It seems to somehow, but its how :?
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Sorry, I got hi-jacked by slave-driver husband and have been gardening for hours. Moussaka (also demand by said Husband!) now bubbling in the oven, so am going to add some more to the family but at the moment, other than friendship, I can't see where they are going to connect. :?
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880--Lulu adding

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Finding it very painful putting Mary's first three children onto the tree. Leonard, I knew well and he came over to England on several occasions but not until the 1970s, after his Mother had already died in the late 1940s. So he never saw her again, after he was shipped to Canada, in the middle of WW1. Yet she never forgot him and when some of his children came over to England, a couple of years ago, they showed me cherished cards he had received from Mary, signed, Your loving Mother. The same Mother who had to let her 10 year old son be sent away, just two years after witnessing her first born, Kate Elizabeth die, aged 14.

Mary's second child, Frederick James Lewitt, who was born at Mary's Mother's home, in Furnace Hill, Halesowen, in 1902, has disappeared. I haven't found a death for him but can't find him on the 1911 either. If anyone could track him down, I would be very grateful.
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880--Lulu adding

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West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1901.
LEWETT Frederick J. Halesowen. Dudley Register Office. HAL/075/247.

Births Dec 1901.
LEWETT Frederick James. Stourbridge. 6c. 149.
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880--Lulu adding

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Thanks Jimmy, I have his Birth Certificate, it's what happens afterwards I'm stuck on. He isn't in the Bateman household with siblings Kate and Leonard on the 1911, I've not seen him with any other relatives but I can't find a death for him either. Am I right to think they would have to have a death certificate for him to be buried?

I wonder if he was adopted, it's a bit strange that he was born at his Grandmother's house, when the other three, early, illegitimate children were born in the Workhouse.

Leonard, born 1905 is the one who's birth we can't find. He believed himself to have been born in Sedgley Workhouse, yet oddly, on the 1911 Census, the people he's living with say he was born in Swansea. That's a bit strange, why would they have thought that when they say his sister Kate was born in Dudley?

Did Mary go back to her home town of Swansea at the time of Leonard's birth? Her brother, John Lousvet was living in Swansea in 1905, as one of his children was born there in that year. John is still there in 1911 but the Census reveals there was a son of his was born in Birmingham in 1910. So it does seem to suggests there was regular contact between the families, despite the distance.

After seeing the 1911 Census I did try to find a birth for Leonard around 1905 in Swansea but no luck there either.
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Sorry, bit of a delay in adding people as I have been gardening until the evening all week, apart from yesterday, when we walked into town to see the Olympic torch. Will continue adding as soon as I can.
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880--Lulu adding

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Just a couple of footnotes, I've come late to this:

Clifford Lousvet b. 20 Oct 1915 Walsall, Staffs, died abt. Mar 1972 Luton Bedfordshire, married Hilda May Greenleaf b. 24 Jan 1918 Luton, died 2008 Royal Berkshire Hospital, Reading, Berkshire, married abt Dec 1940 Luton.

Jack Hubert Lousvet b. 29 Sep 1909 Stourbridge, Worcs, died June 1997 North Walsham, Norfolk, married Unknown Cook abt. Dec 1939 Luton; married Sarah V Locke b. 23 Dec 1911, died Jan. 1995 Norwich, Norfolk about March 1973 Dunstable, Bedfordshire.

I see there are numerous Lousvet births and marriages around Luton and the name is spelt that way, Lousvet, which is probably the original Walloon (Belgian French) spelling, although Louwet is also possible.
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880--Lulu adding

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Thanks Dennis. I have a photo of Clifford taken at the garden of Fanny Aston's in the Coombeswood Buildings. John Lousvet had lived there and was married to Fanny's sister. The Lousvet spelling is an error on John's birth certificate, Louwet is the Belgian spelling and I have tracked it back to the Liege area, which is were family oral legend has it that he came from.

John, oddly used Lewett sometimes as his name but all his BMD certificates are Lousvet and it is the spelling used for most of his children. If you Google the name Lousvet, you will find them to all be John's descendants. I am in touch with one and she gave me some wonderful photos and lots of information.

John moved to Luton and also died there, which is why there are a cluster of births in the area.
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Many thanks, Lulu. Interesting surname, perhaps to do with wolf, loup, there are several French surnames with that connection: Louet, Leloup, Loubat etc., although Walloon is often a law unto itself!
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880--Lulu adding

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I'd love to trace Paul's family back but other than the marriage cert that says his father was Francis Louwet and I know he was from Belgium I have no further info and wouldn't know where to start. John's Granddaughter has suggested we go over there but without knowing anything, it does seem a bit futile (other than a good beer & chocolate sampling holiday). I'd really want something to work on before going.

Other things I would love to solve, where oh where was Mary on the 1901 census? I live in hope that it might provide a clue to the father of her first three children.

What happened to Frederick James, born 1901? Did he die? I can't find a death.

Also Mary must have had a half brother, surname Davies, who survived, (I think one may have died in WW1) as my Grandfather (Mary's son) used to go to Hednesford during WW2, to see a cousin of that name, who had a garage, or transport business there, where he would get petrol for his Motor cycle (rationing?) but I suppose that should be another topic.
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Re: Mary Lewett b abt 1880--Lulu adding

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I have colleagues at the University of Liège, Lulu, I'm a retired professor of French. It's a delightful area, the Ardennes etc., you could spend several agreeable days around there, excellent food and drink too! I haven't a clue how one might set about tracing Belgian ancestors, but there are French-language websites e.g.:

http://www.guide-genealogie.com/guide/g ... gique.html

A letter here might bring advice:

http://oghb.be/la-genealogie-en-belgique

It says that 'Belgium is a small, well organized country as far as archives for amateur genealogists are concerned.'

My connection, by the way, if you're wondering, is via William Kite and Gwendoline Tromans, with ultimately a connection to the Plants, one of my father's families!
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