hi im new to this site and need help looking for thomas baker, according to the 1911 census he was from stoke worcester and was born around 1862 all i know is that his fathers name is william, also on thomas marriage certificate there was a withness name on the saying eliza baker!! could that be thomas mother or could it be his sister !!!!, i have checked up all the reigister offices around worcester and redditch for his birth certificate but no luck, as i said his name is thomas baker no middle name and was born around in 1862, I really need help is there anyone on here know about him !!! or perhaps help me find him.
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Re: thomas baker
Hello George - welcome to the Forum
Can you give us some details on the 1911 Census please. Was he born in Stoke in Staffordshire or Stoke Prior in Worcestershire ?
Maggie
Can you give us some details on the 1911 Census please. Was he born in Stoke in Staffordshire or Stoke Prior in Worcestershire ?
Maggie
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Re: thomas baker
Have had a look at some Census records and I think this is him
Thomas and Mary are living in Foundry Road, in 1901 and 1911
In 1861 - Thomas is recorded as being born in Stoke Priors
1861 : Victoria Road, Smethwick
William Jos Baker, Head, 37, Labourer, Born in Alfrick, Worcester
Mary Baker, Wife, 29, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 5, Born in Bromsgrove
Thomas Baker, Son, 2, Born in Stoke Priors
1871 : Victoria Road, Smethwick
William Baker, Head, 47, Labourer, Born in Alfrick, Worcester
Mary Baker, Wife, 39, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 15, Iron Dresser, Born in Bromsgrove
Thomas Baker, Son, 12, Works in Factory, Born in Bromsgrove
Sarah Ann Baker, Daur, 9, Scholar, Born in Smethwick
Mary Baker, Daur, 4, Born in Smethwick
1881 : 34 Foundry Road, All Saints, Birmingham
William Baker, Head, 57, Labourer in Soap Works, Born in Worcester
Mary Baker, Wife, 49, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 25, Iron Dresser, Born in Bromsgrove
Elizabeth Baker, Daur in Law, 25, Born in Bromsgrove
Sarah A J Baker, Gr Daur, 3, Scholar, Born in Birmingham
Thomas Baker, Gr Son, 1, Born in Birmingham
William Keeley, Boarder, 25, Iron Dresser, Born in Leek
1901 : 59 Foundry Road, Birmingham
Thomas is not at home on the night the census was taken
Mary A Baker, Wife, 31, Born in Birmingham
John Baker, Son, 8, Born in Birmingham
William Baker, Son, 4, Born in Birmingham
Florrie Baker, Daur, 5, Born in Birmingham
Doris Baker, Daur, 1, Born in Birmingham
Thomas and Mary are living in Foundry Road, in 1901 and 1911
In 1861 - Thomas is recorded as being born in Stoke Priors
1861 : Victoria Road, Smethwick
William Jos Baker, Head, 37, Labourer, Born in Alfrick, Worcester
Mary Baker, Wife, 29, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 5, Born in Bromsgrove
Thomas Baker, Son, 2, Born in Stoke Priors
1871 : Victoria Road, Smethwick
William Baker, Head, 47, Labourer, Born in Alfrick, Worcester
Mary Baker, Wife, 39, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 15, Iron Dresser, Born in Bromsgrove
Thomas Baker, Son, 12, Works in Factory, Born in Bromsgrove
Sarah Ann Baker, Daur, 9, Scholar, Born in Smethwick
Mary Baker, Daur, 4, Born in Smethwick
1881 : 34 Foundry Road, All Saints, Birmingham
William Baker, Head, 57, Labourer in Soap Works, Born in Worcester
Mary Baker, Wife, 49, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 25, Iron Dresser, Born in Bromsgrove
Elizabeth Baker, Daur in Law, 25, Born in Bromsgrove
Sarah A J Baker, Gr Daur, 3, Scholar, Born in Birmingham
Thomas Baker, Gr Son, 1, Born in Birmingham
William Keeley, Boarder, 25, Iron Dresser, Born in Leek
1901 : 59 Foundry Road, Birmingham
Thomas is not at home on the night the census was taken
Mary A Baker, Wife, 31, Born in Birmingham
John Baker, Son, 8, Born in Birmingham
William Baker, Son, 4, Born in Birmingham
Florrie Baker, Daur, 5, Born in Birmingham
Doris Baker, Daur, 1, Born in Birmingham
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Re: thomas baker
In 1891
57, Foundry Road, Birmingham
Mary Baker, Wife, Head, 59, Widow, Sweet Meat Shop, Born in Bromsgrove
Thomas Baker, Son, 32, Machine Fitter, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 35, Iron Dresser, Born in Bromsgrove
Elizabeth Baker, Daur in Law, 35, Born in Bromsgrove
Sarah A Baker, Gr Daur, 14, Jewellery Chain Maker, Born in Birmingham
Thomas Baker, Gr Son, 11, Scholar, Born in Birmingham
William Baker, Gr Son, 9, Scholar, Born in Winson Green
57, Foundry Road, Birmingham
Mary Baker, Wife, Head, 59, Widow, Sweet Meat Shop, Born in Bromsgrove
Thomas Baker, Son, 32, Machine Fitter, Born in Bromsgrove
John Baker, Son, 35, Iron Dresser, Born in Bromsgrove
Elizabeth Baker, Daur in Law, 35, Born in Bromsgrove
Sarah A Baker, Gr Daur, 14, Jewellery Chain Maker, Born in Birmingham
Thomas Baker, Gr Son, 11, Scholar, Born in Birmingham
William Baker, Gr Son, 9, Scholar, Born in Winson Green
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Re: thomas baker
Antie Em wrote:Hello George - welcome to the Forum
Can you give us some details on the 1911 Census please. Was he born in Stoke in Staffordshire or Stoke Prior in Worcestershire ?
Maggie
hiya thts all tht is said is stoke worcester where he was from or born and looked at what u brought up and yes they lived in foundry road thanxs ever so much for helping, just need to figure out what yr he died after 1920, i know where his wife buried but he not buried with her !! any idea what web site to go on to trace what yr he died and where !!!
kind regards
George
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Re: thomas baker
I only have access to Ancestry for bmd's.
I have looked and there are lots deaths registered for Thomas Baker, born around 1862 in the county of Warwickshire. Trouble is, he might not even have died where he was living. It's not going to be easy to find him.
Other people on the forum might have access to other databases.
If you live in the Birmingham area, you could always trawl through the electoral records at Birmingham Archives of the road where they were living. If you have the buriel for Thomas's wife, look on that address until he is no longer registered - I have always found this a really useful tool.
Good Luck
I have looked and there are lots deaths registered for Thomas Baker, born around 1862 in the county of Warwickshire. Trouble is, he might not even have died where he was living. It's not going to be easy to find him.
Other people on the forum might have access to other databases.
If you live in the Birmingham area, you could always trawl through the electoral records at Birmingham Archives of the road where they were living. If you have the buriel for Thomas's wife, look on that address until he is no longer registered - I have always found this a really useful tool.
Good Luck
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Re: thomas baker
The local Churches for Foundry Rd. would be: St Cuthberts, Winson Green Rd.
and Bishop Latimer, Handsworth New Rd.
But most people from that area were buried at Handsworth Cemetry,Oxhill Rd.
and Bishop Latimer, Handsworth New Rd.
But most people from that area were buried at Handsworth Cemetry,Oxhill Rd.
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Re: thomas baker
Hiya George 
Just wondering about the year Thomas was born?
According to the censuses listed it is more likely he was born in 1859 rather than 1862
There is this Christening for a Thomas Baker from www.familysearch.org which would also match the birthdate from the census ..... if he was born in Oct/Nov of 1858 he would be shown as age 2 on the 1861 census
name: Thomas Baker
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Nov 1858
baptism/christening place: Stoke Prior, Worcester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Baker
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary Baker
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04361-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 367828
reference number: 1065
I know that the age he gives on his marriage is different again!
2 Aug 1891
Christchurch, Birmingham
Thomas Baker,27,bachelor, labourer, resident 1,Marroway St,father William Baker,labourer (deceased).
Mary Ann Cooke,22,spinster, 1,Marroway St, father Thomas Cooke,filecutter.
Witnesses Thomas Cooke & Elizabeth Baker 'her mark'
and in 1911 he lists his birthdate as 1862
1911. 59, Foundry Rd, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Thomas Baker,49,head,married 20yrs, bricklayers labourer, born Stoke,Worcs,
Mary Ann,39,wife,6 children born,1 died,
John,18,unm.,burnisher elctroplate,
Florence,16,unm,gen.servt,
William,14,stamper iron holloware,
Ernest,7,
George,3.
Others born B'ham
....but I am wondering if you need to be looking for a birth certificate for 1858 rather than 1862
Cheers
Expat
Just wondering about the year Thomas was born?
According to the censuses listed it is more likely he was born in 1859 rather than 1862
There is this Christening for a Thomas Baker from www.familysearch.org which would also match the birthdate from the census ..... if he was born in Oct/Nov of 1858 he would be shown as age 2 on the 1861 census
name: Thomas Baker
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Nov 1858
baptism/christening place: Stoke Prior, Worcester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Baker
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary Baker
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04361-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 367828
reference number: 1065
I know that the age he gives on his marriage is different again!
2 Aug 1891
Christchurch, Birmingham
Thomas Baker,27,bachelor, labourer, resident 1,Marroway St,father William Baker,labourer (deceased).
Mary Ann Cooke,22,spinster, 1,Marroway St, father Thomas Cooke,filecutter.
Witnesses Thomas Cooke & Elizabeth Baker 'her mark'
and in 1911 he lists his birthdate as 1862
1911. 59, Foundry Rd, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Thomas Baker,49,head,married 20yrs, bricklayers labourer, born Stoke,Worcs,
Mary Ann,39,wife,6 children born,1 died,
John,18,unm.,burnisher elctroplate,
Florence,16,unm,gen.servt,
William,14,stamper iron holloware,
Ernest,7,
George,3.
Others born B'ham
....but I am wondering if you need to be looking for a birth certificate for 1858 rather than 1862
Cheers
Expat
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Re: thomas baker
expat66 wrote:Hiya George
Just wondering about the year Thomas was born?
According to the censuses listed it is more likely he was born in 1859 rather than 1862
There is this Christening for a Thomas Baker from http://www.familysearch.org which would also match the birthdate from the census ..... if he was born in Oct/Nov of 1858 he would be shown as age 2 on the 1861 census
name: Thomas Baker
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Nov 1858
baptism/christening place: Stoke Prior, Worcester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Baker
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary Baker
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04361-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 367828
reference number: 1065
I know that the age he gives on his marriage is different again!
2 Aug 1891
Christchurch, Birmingham
Thomas Baker,27,bachelor, labourer, resident 1,Marroway St,father William Baker,labourer (deceased).
Mary Ann Cooke,22,spinster, 1,Marroway St, father Thomas Cooke,filecutter.
Witnesses Thomas Cooke & Elizabeth Baker 'her mark'
and in 1911 he lists his birthdate as 1862
1911. 59, Foundry Rd, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Thomas Baker,49,head,married 20yrs, bricklayers labourer, born Stoke,Worcs,
Mary Ann,39,wife,6 children born,1 died,
John,18,unm.,burnisher elctroplate,
Florence,16,unm,gen.servt,
William,14,stamper iron holloware,
Ernest,7,
George,3.
Others born B'ham
....but I am wondering if you need to be looking for a birth certificate for 1858 rather than 1862
Cheers
Expat
hello again, so perhap he lied about his age when he got married !!! as he would of been 30 to 31 yrs of age and didnt want marys parents to know !!! im guna be checking the elect rolls from 1920 onwards at 46 kitchener street when he live there till he not on there then tht will be the rough year when he died, also sent an email to handsworth cemetery as heard he might of died in 1924 fingers cross, should hear off them nextweek x
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Re: thomas baker
This looks like it might be a likely death record :
Name: Thomas Baker
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Birmingham North
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 311
Might be worth requesting this certificate, giving as much criteria as you might know, children's names as informant, the fact that is is a widower and address etc.
Name: Thomas Baker
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Birmingham North
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 311
Might be worth requesting this certificate, giving as much criteria as you might know, children's names as informant, the fact that is is a widower and address etc.
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I have just discovered, today, that 'Findmypast' have burials for Handsworth Cemetary, which I didn't know and I'm sure that alot of my relatives are buried there ( may have to go and subscribe to FMP now!) 
I found this record for a Thomas Baker in 1926 .... don't know if it is the Thomas we are looking for or not ?
Burial Year:1926
Surname:Baker
Firstnames:Thomas
Register no:10756
No. in grave:
Monumental Inscription:
Place:Handsworth cemetery
Town:Birmingham
County:Warwickshire
Record source:Warwickshire Burials
Expat
I found this record for a Thomas Baker in 1926 .... don't know if it is the Thomas we are looking for or not ?
Burial Year:1926
Surname:Baker
Firstnames:Thomas
Register no:10756
No. in grave:
Monumental Inscription:
Place:Handsworth cemetery
Town:Birmingham
County:Warwickshire
Record source:Warwickshire Burials
Expat
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Re: thomas baker
expat66 wrote:I have just discovered, today, that 'Findmypast' have burials for Handsworth Cemetary, which I didn't know and I'm sure that alot of my relatives are buried there ( may have to go and subscribe to FMP now!)
I found this record for a Thomas Baker in 1926 .... don't know if it is the Thomas we are looking for or not ?
Burial Year:1926
Surname:Baker
Firstnames:Thomas
Register no:10756
No. in grave:
Monumental Inscription:
Place:Handsworth cemetery
Town:Birmingham
County:Warwickshire
Record source:Warwickshire Burials
Expat
hiya i will pop in to handsworth cemetery tomorrow as its my day off work on monday x
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Re: thomas baker
Antie Em wrote:This looks like it might be a likely death record :
Name: Thomas Baker
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Birmingham North
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 311
Might be worth requesting this certificate, giving as much criteria as you might know, children's names as informant, the fact that is is a widower and address etc.
thanxs for this just ordered his death certificate and hope its him
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Re: thomas baker
expat66 wrote:I have just discovered, today, that 'Findmypast' have burials for Handsworth Cemetary, which I didn't know and I'm sure that alot of my relatives are buried there ( may have to go and subscribe to FMP now!)
I found this record for a Thomas Baker in 1926 .... don't know if it is the Thomas we are looking for or not ?
Burial Year:1926
Surname:Baker
Firstnames:Thomas
Register no:10756
No. in grave:
Monumental Inscription:
Place:Handsworth cemetery
Town:Birmingham
County:Warwickshire
Record source:Warwickshire Burials
Expat
hi been to cemetery and this wasnt him as this person was 15 yrs old however there was another one died age 66 in 1925, so ordered the death certificate today to see if its him also ordered ernies and jessie marriage certificate today so i shud get them within a week,
hope u all well chat soon xxx
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Re: thomas baker
Antie Em wrote:This looks like it might be a likely death record :
Name: Thomas Baker
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Birmingham North
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 311
Might be worth requesting this certificate, giving as much criteria as you might know, children's names as informant, the fact that is is a widower and address etc.
thanxs just recieved the death certificate of thomas baker this is the one
kind regards
george