ARC TBC...........Taylors of Old Hill and Tabernacle Church.

[blackcountrybiker]

Hi there - wonder if anybody could give me a few pointers to find some lost relatives. My mothers cousin was a lady named Dorothy Taylor from the Barrs Road area of Old Hill. All I really know about her is that she married an Alfred Newman on 17 Feb 1951 at the Tabernacle church in Old Hill. This info was taken from the back of a photo of my own grandparents at the church on the day. Her father was John William Taylor, (known as Jack). Along with my grandfather, he was orphaned in 1901 and spent a few years in the Royal Orphanage in Wolverhampton before staring work at Stewarts and Lloyds when he was 15. From what I know his eventual marriage must have broken down and Jack emigrated to Canada, virtually breaking all of his ties with family in the Black Country and leaving Dorothy and her Mum in Old Hill.

Where can I get information on Marriages at the Tab please? It might just give me a few more pointers as to who Dorothy's mum was, and who knows, Dorothy might even still be alive which would open up a whole new branch of my family tree.

[peterd]

you have a marriage cert for dorothy what age did she marry or do you have a date of birth ?

you will need to find dorothy birth cert to find mothers name


Tabernacle church in Old Hill is this the one conected to noah hingley ?


linell where are u

[peterd]

can anyone see that newman / taylor marriage i carnt ?

found this only goes up to 1948 though

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1019590417

[blackcountrybiker]

No marriage certificate, all I have is a photo of my grandfather (Dorothy's uncle) walking through the gates of the Tabernacle. On the back it says "Uncle Wes and Aunti Annie at Dorothy and Arthurs wedding - 17 Feb 1951 at the "Tab"

[peterd]

here 1948 to 1979 carnt see them ?


http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1020012013

[peterd]

No marriage certificate, all I have is a photo of my grandfather (Dorothy's uncle) walking through the gates of the Tabernacle. On the back it says "Uncle Wes and Aunti Annie at Dorothy and Arthurs wedding - 17 Feb 1951 at the "Tab"

is it alfred or arthur newman ?

[peterd]

poss this is dorothy

The plays created great interest and soon incorporated the Youth Fellowship which was very strong
in the Tabernacle Church at this time. It was 1946 that Edith decided to produce something more
ambitious. The choir joined too, and so an adult society was formed as membership was restricted to
members over the age of 16. Zurika was chosen as the first venture and the leading parts were played
by Margaret Cooper and Eric Beasley. The musical accompaniment was a solo piano.
The production met with great success and so it was decided to produce another show the following
year. This show was San Marino which had been performed earlier as a Sunday school play with
Ethel Hobbs in the lead. Rehearsals were started in 1947 with Edith (Guest) Edgar as the leading lady
and Roy Bennett as the leading man, Olwen Homer as the Court Jester and other parts were played by
Wendy Mason, Christine Shakespeare, Dorothy Newman, Vernon Mason and William Allbut.
The part of the doctor was played by Richard Edmonds.

but this is 1947 ?


from here dorothy mentioned a few time its now called

Tabernacle Primitive Methodist Church in High Street, Old Hill, now Highgate Street, Cradley Heath


http://www.taboperatic.com/metamorphosis_of_the_tab.htm

[blackcountrybiker]

Looks like I gotta look deeper... The photo def says 1951 but it could be wrong if it was written after the event. The sad thing is Dorothy found my mam about 15 years ago, but I wasn't interested in family history then. Should have paid more attention and asked more questions ... This is my first time on here and I was amazed how quickly the answers came in. Thanks guys n gals I'm sure I'll have a few more questions soon, my mothers family are Black country through and through living in sight of either Netherton church or Rowley church for over 300 years.

[blackcountrybiker]

is it alfred or arthur newman ?

Ooops - tricky fingers!! It's Alfred, sorry.

[peterd]

what info do you have on your grandad her uncle & your mother grandad might able to find out more that way

[blackcountrybiker]

That's where it gets tricky. I lived with my grandad in Netherton for many years. My grandad was David Westley Taylor, but always known as Wes or Wesley. He was born 17 Dec 1892 in Netherton. His parents were John William and Esther Taylor (nee Willetts). They both died from Typhoid in feb 1901, along with his 11 year old sister Maggie Florence. Grandad and his brother John William (known as Jack, b 1896) went to live with an auntie Florence Kendall (nee Willetts) and her daughter Sarah Annie (known as Annie) at Bishtons Bridge very soon after. Both Wes and Jack then spent a few years in the Wolverhampton Royal Orphanage before returning to live with Florence's daughter and her new husband James John Griffiths in Coombs Road Old Hill. Wes and Jack both went to work at Stewarts and Lloyds in Coombs road and this where I lose track of Jack. I know that he married, he stayed in the area around Barrs Rd/Beauty Bank, Old Hill and had a daughter named Dorothy (who married an Alf Newman). In the 60s they were all living in and around the same area, as was Annies son, George William Kendall Griffiths and his wife Maisie. (George became Mayor of Dudley in 1951, but that's another story for another evening).

[linell]

you have a marriage cert for dorothy what age did she marry or do you have a date of birth ?

you will need to find dorothy birth cert to find mothers name


Tabernacle church in Old Hill is this the one conected to noah hingley ?


linell where are u

Hi Pete, no not the Noah Hingley Church, that was Old Hill Wesleyan. I believe the PR's are at Sandwell Archives.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Hi

do you have this marriage info at all pls

1888
TAYLOR * John W WILLETTS Esther Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/149
TAYLOR * John W WILLITTS Esther Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/006/149

I think this maybe Esther
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =109809297

[Northern Lass]

Sparks this lot connects to you too

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =936901018

[Northern Lass]

I think this is the marriage maybe.....bit early

1918
TAYLOR John W GROVE Elsie M Old Hill Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/5/127

they seem to have a dau Dorothy ?

Births Mar 1919
Taylor Dorothy M Grove Dudley 6b 1350

Do we know dob for Alfred Newman?

do you have this one for your David?
is this the marriage?
1924
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TAYLOR David W HILL Minnie Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/015/420