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Joseph Hadley and son Samuel

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Joseph Hadley on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

There is a son Samuel b abt 1882 listed in the census entries in the notes, but he is not included among the children of Joseph and Sarah on the 'tree'. He would obviously have been born before Joseph and Sarahs marriage.

I think I may have found Samuel in 1911:

89 Ivanhoe Street, Dudley
Elizabeth Russon Head Widow 51 Dressmaker b Netherton (m 30 years, 4 children, 3 still living)
Carrie Elizabeth Russon Dau Single 27 Clerk (Butchers) b Woodside
Samuel Joseph Hadley son-in-law Marr 2 years 28 Sett Maker (Granite Quarries) b Rowley Regis
Mary Ellen Hadley Dau Marr 23 b Dudley
Carrie Ada Wiseman Niece 11 b Dudley
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Re: Joseph Hadley and son Samuel

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RUSSON Mary E HADLEY Joseph S Dudley, St Luke Dudley Register Office 223/003/261 1909
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Re: Joseph Hadley and son Samuel

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Sorry Jimmy, I've added son Samuel b 1882 now
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mallosa wrote:Sorry Jimmy, I've added son Samuel b 1882 now

Jimmy? !
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rockyfowler wrote:RUSSON Mary E HADLEY Joseph S Dudley, St Luke Dudley Register Office 223/003/261 1909

No wonder I couldn't see the marriage - was looking for Samuel J(oseph) not Joseph S(amuel) !
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Here's the Russon family earlier:

1891 32 Turner St, Dudley
Lizzie Russon Marr 33 Dress Maker b Netherton
Carrie Russon 8 scholar bWoodside
Sarah 6 scholar
Nellie 4 scholar
Lillie 2
Rest b Dudley

1901 30 Swan St, Dudley
Elizabeth Russon Widow 41 Dress Maker
Carrie 17 Brass Foundry Clerk
Sarah 16
Nellie 14 Stationery Clerk
Lillie 12
Emily Wiseman Visitor 3
All b Dudley

Possible marriage:
1882 St Mark, Pensnett Richard Russon/ Elizabeth Beese
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mallosa wrote:Sorry Jimmy, I've added son Samuel b 1882 now


Whoops, sorry for that too :lol:
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Re: Joseph Hadley and son Samuel

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must be a diff one as ours is here in 1911

not Samuel but Joseph and still married

1911: Lye Cross Farm, Oakham
Joseph Hadley (51) quarryman settmaker
Harriet Hadley (35)
Thomas Hadley (25) quarryman settmaker
Arthur Hadley (22) quarryman labourer
Ada Hadley (19)
Isaac Hadley (16) steelworker
Benjamin Hadley (14) working on farm
Frederick Hadley (11) school pupil
Samuel Mallin (9) school pupil
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Northern Lass wrote:must be a diff one as ours is here in 1911

not Samuel but Joseph and still married

1911: Lye Cross Farm, Oakham
Joseph Hadley (51) quarryman settmaker
Harriet Hadley (35)
Thomas Hadley (25) quarryman settmaker
Arthur Hadley (22) quarryman labourer
Ada Hadley (19)
Isaac Hadley (16) steelworker
Benjamin Hadley (14) working on farm
Frederick Hadley (11) school pupil
Samuel Mallin (9) school pupil


Not Joseph - his SON Samuel b1881-2 born before his marriage to Sarah Pugh!
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Re: Joseph Hadley and son Samuel

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Samuel is on the tree here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =738330723

we dont know if he is a son of Joseph though
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Re: Joseph Hadley and son Samuel

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rockyfowler wrote:RUSSON Mary E HADLEY Joseph S Dudley, St Luke Dudley Register Office 223/003/261 1909


We need this marriage I will add to look ups

I think we can add though will start it off
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sp1 wrote:Here's the Russon family earlier:

1891 32 Turner St, Dudley
Lizzie Russon Marr 33 Dress Maker b Netherton
Carrie Russon 8 scholar bWoodside
Sarah 6 scholar
Nellie 4 scholar
Lillie 2
Rest b Dudley

1901 30 Swan St, Dudley
Elizabeth Russon Widow 41 Dress Maker
Carrie 17 Brass Foundry Clerk
Sarah 16
Nellie 14 Stationery Clerk
Lillie 12
Emily Wiseman Visitor 3
All b Dudley

Possible marriage:
1882 St Mark, Pensnett Richard Russon/ Elizabeth Beese


Can we find Richard Russon on census pls
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Re: Joseph Hadley and son Samuel

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Odd this we have a poss death
Deaths Dec 1882
Russon Richard 40 Birmingham 6d 121
RUSSON Richard 40 Birmingham 6d 421
Russon Richard 40 Birmingham 6d 122
RUSSON Richard 40 Birmingham 6d 422

which could be this one on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =782784647

but we have kids been born after 1882 to Elizabeth
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That marriage at St Marks Pensnett for Richard Russon and Elizabeth Beese is puzzling as I have just foud this:

1881 53 Steppingstone St, Dudley
Richard Russon Head 25 Labourer in Iron Works
Emma Wife 26
Charlotte 4
Annie 3
Emily 1
Susannah Beese Mother-in-law Widow, 64, laundress, b Shirlet, Salop
Rest born Dudley


Then there is the only candidate I can find for an Elizabeth Beese of the correct age:

1881 24 King Edmund St, Priory Ter., Dudley
James Beese 58
Elizabeth 48
Sarah,dau, 29
Ann M, dau, 25
Elizabeth,dau, 23
Esther,dau, 21
Josh.,son, 19
Caroline,dau, 16
John, grandson, 11
Eliza, dau, 8
James, son, 1877
Carry Walker, 2 b. Bury, Lancs.
Rest born Dudley

Were there two Richard Russons who married a Beese??
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This is the same family in 1871:

1871Salop St, Dudley
James Beese 47
Lizzy 37
Sarah 19
Mary 17
Ann M 15
Elizabeth 13
Joseph 9
Caroline 7
Eliza 3
John C 0 (grandson)
Alice 0
All b Dudley


In 1891 James has died, and daughter Elizabeth is no longer there, so could have married in the intervening years:
24 King Edmund St, Dudley
Elizabeth Beese, Widow, 57
Sarah 39
Ann M, 35
Joseph H, 28, b Netherton
JohnC C, 21 (grandson)
Eliza, 18
James 14
Rest born Dudley
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