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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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mallosa wrote:1851: Peartree Street, Rowley Regis
John Jackson 24 Head Miner b.Rowley, Herefordshire?
Sarah Jackson 23 Wife b.Rowley, Staffordshire
Mary Jackson 8 Mo Dau b.Rowley, Staffordshire

Next door are...

William Willetts 47 Head Day Labourer
Mary Willetts 48 Wife
Benjamin Willetts 20 Son U Chainmaker
Samuel Willetts 18 Son U Chainmaker
Daniel Woodall 79 Grandfather
all born R/Regis





are these one and the same ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =160010638


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =399958797


holly what do you think as the top ones yours ?



need that 41 census :cry:
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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..at last!

1841: Wilkes's Fold, Rowley Regis
William Willitts 35 Labourer
Mary Willitts 35
Sarah Willitts 13
Benjamin Willitts 10
Samuel Willitts 8
Daniel Woodhall 64

next door: (already on Connections)

William Willette 80 Ind
Hannah Willette 85
Hannah Willette 50 Nailmaker
Hantany Willette 50
Jetham Willette 35
Elizebeth Willette 25
Edward Willette 20
Joseph Willette 18
Mary Willette 17
James Willette 10
Edward Willette 5

Next door is: Thomas and Parthena Willetts & Family
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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peterd wrote:all william and mary children



JOSEPH WILLETTS
Christening: 19 APR 1826 Halesowen, Worcester, England

SARAH WILLETTS
Christening: 14 SEP 1828 Halesowen, Worcester, England ( poss married john jackson) 1841 census

WILLIAM WILLETTS
Christening: 30 OCT 1831 Halesowen, Worcester, England

SAMUEL WILLETTS
Christening: 31 MAR 1833 Halesowen, Worcester, England ( poss married fanny jackson) 1841 census

HARRIET WILLETTS
Christening: 17 AUG 1836 Halesowen, Worcester, England

ANN WILLETTS
Christening: 22 FEB 1837 Halesowen, Worcester, England

JANE WILLETTS
Christening: 22 FEB 1837 Halesowen, Worcester, England

HANNAH WILLETTS
Christening: 03 JUN 1838 Halesowen, Worcester, England

EMMA WILLETTS
Christening: 22 SEP 1839 Halesowen, Worcester, England

EDWARD WILLETTS
Christening: 22 SEP 1839 Halesowen, Worcester, England

plus a benjamin c 1831 1841 census

is this them on bcc ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =160010638


any one find 41 and 51 census for william and mary with kids above ?



who do the rest belong too ?
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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mallosa wrote:..at last!

1841: Wilkes's Fold, Rowley Regis
William Willitts 35 Labourer
Mary Willitts 35
Sarah Willitts 13
Benjamin Willitts 10
Samuel Willitts 8
Daniel Woodhall 64

next door: (already on Connections)

William Willette 80 Ind
Hannah Willette 85
Hannah Willette 50 Nailmaker
Hantany Willette 50
Jetham Willette 35
Elizebeth Willette 25
Edward Willette 20
Joseph Willette 18
Mary Willette 17
James Willette 10
Edward Willette 5

Next door is: Thomas and Parthena Willetts & Family


I think William 35 is the William who married Mary Burton (Holly's one). But I can't see what the relationship is between he and William 80.

There is a tree on Ancestry (Chris's Clan) which has the children of William Willetts (1803 - 1882) and Mary (1798 - 1864) as:
George 1821 Hasbury, Worcs.
Thomas 1824 Hasbury, Worcs.
Joseph 1826 Hasbury, Worcs.
Sarah 1828 Halesowen, Worcs.
Samuel 1833 Halesowen, Worcs.
William 1834 Halesowen, Worcs.
Harriet 1836 Halesowen, Worcs. - 1913 Bromsgrove Worcs. (married George Smith)
Edward 1839 Halesowen, Worcs
Emma 1839 Halesowen, Worcs
Elias 1840 Halesowen, Worcs - 1840 Stourbridge, Worcs.

William is also said to have had a daughter by an unknown mother:
Jane Willetts 1833 Halesowen, Worcs.
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 18 63

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No, I'm wrong 'cos there's this:

1841 Hayley Green, Hasbury
William Willitts 35 Nailer b. in county
Mary Willitts 40 not b. in county
George Willitts 20 not b. in county
Joseph Willitts 15 not b. in county
William Willitts 10 not b. in county
Jane Willitts 7 not b. in county
Harriet Willitts 4 not b. in county
Edward Willitts 2 b. in county
Emma Willitts 2 b. in county

Think this is Holly's William married to Mary Burton.

Hmmm, yes, 'cos this William and Mary are next door to Richard & Sarah Willetts (names of Holly's William's parents) in 1851 ...

1851 Hayley Green, Lutley, Halesowen (Entry 13)
Richard Willetts Head 72 Nailer b. Lutley, Worcs.
Sarah Willetts Wife 69 Nailer b. Pedmore, Worcs.
Next door (Entry 14):
William Willetts Head 48 Ag. Labourer b. Halesowen, Worcs.
Mary Willetts Wife 53 Nailer b. Hayley Green, Worcs.
George Willetts Son 30 Labourer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Harriet Willetts Daur 13 Nailer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
William Willetts Son 21 Nailer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Edward Willetts Son 12 b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Emma Willetts Daur 12 b. Hasbury, Worcs.

Starting to think we don't have a match, Pete.
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dianel wrote:No, I'm wrong 'cos there's this:

1841 Hayley Green, Hasbury
William Willitts 35 Nailer b. in county
Mary Willitts 40 not b. in county
George Willitts 20 not b. in county
Joseph Willitts 15 not b. in county
William Willitts 10 not b. in county
Jane Willitts 7 not b. in county
Harriet Willitts 4 not b. in county
Edward Willitts 2 b. in county
Emma Willitts 2 b. in county

Think this is Holly's William married to Mary Burton.

Hmmm, yes, 'cos this William and Mary are next door to Richard & Sarah Willetts (names of Holly's William's parents) in 1851 ...

1851 Hayley Green, Lutley, Halesowen (Entry 13)
Richard Willetts Head 72 Nailer b. Lutley, Worcs.
Sarah Willetts Wife 69 Nailer b. Pedmore, Worcs.
Next door (Entry 14):
William Willetts Head 48 Ag. Labourer b. Halesowen, Worcs.
Mary Willetts Wife 53 Nailer b. Hayley Green, Worcs.
George Willetts Son 30 Labourer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Harriet Willetts Daur 13 Nailer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
William Willetts Son 21 Nailer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Edward Willetts Son 12 b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Emma Willetts Daur 12 b. Hasbury, Worcs.

Starting to think we don't have a match, Pete.



Obvious two lots of joseph and mary only thing agianst this being holly joseph and mary is they were married c1824 they have a 20 year old in 1841 unless out of wedlock or hers for a previous relationship ?


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mallosa wrote:..at last!

1841: Wilkes's Fold, Rowley Regis
William Willitts 35 Labourer
Mary Willitts 35
Sarah Willitts 13
Benjamin Willitts 10
Samuel Willitts 8
Daniel Woodhall 64

next door: (already on Connections)

William Willette 80 Ind
Hannah Willette 85
Hannah Willette 50 Nailmaker
Hantany Willette 50
Jetham Willette 35
Elizebeth Willette 25
Edward Willette 20
Joseph Willette 18
Mary Willette 17
James Willette 10
Edward Willette 5

Next door is: Thomas and Parthena Willetts & Family



right this is who the underline is

ANTHONY WILLITTS
Christening: 17 SEP 1786 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

WM. WILLITTS
HANNAH


this lot on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =946190651

so is william 1841 census there son ? and did he marry mary burton 1824 ? and the other william parents richard and sarah marry mary ? c 1820
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 18 63

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[quote="peterd"][quote="dianel"]No, I'm wrong 'cos there's this:

1841 Hayley Green, Hasbury
William Willitts 35 Nailer b. in county
Mary Willitts 40 not b. in county
George Willitts 20 not b. in county
Joseph Willitts 15 not b. in county
William Willitts 10 not b. in county
Jane Willitts 7 not b. in county
Harriet Willitts 4 not b. in county
Edward Willitts 2 b. in county
Emma Willitts 2 b. in county

Think this is Holly's William married to Mary Burton.

Hmmm, yes, 'cos this William and Mary are next door to Richard & Sarah Willetts (names of Holly's William's parents) in 1851 ...

1851 Hayley Green, Lutley, Halesowen (Entry 13)
Richard Willetts Head 72 Nailer b. Lutley, Worcs.
Sarah Willetts Wife 69 Nailer b. Pedmore, Worcs.
Next door (Entry 14):
William Willetts Head 48 Ag. Labourer b. Halesowen, Worcs.
Mary Willetts Wife 53 Nailer b. Hayley Green, Worcs.
George Willetts Son 30 Labourer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Harriet Willetts Daur 13 Nailer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
William Willetts Son 21 Nailer b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Edward Willetts Son 12 b. Hasbury, Worcs.
Emma Willetts Daur 12 b. Hasbury, Worcs.

[b]Hi all, yes the above it corrct. William 1803 son of Richard Willetts 1780 and Sarah Holloway. William 1803 Married Mary Burton. I think the Chris's Clan Ancestry tree is incorrect. Elias 1840 is the son of my Gt Gt Gt Grandparents William Willetts and Maria Rudge, his second wife, and they have Samuel bap 1833 son of William and Mary in Old HIll.? Will have another read of all the info and get back to you from Linell.
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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dianel wrote:
mallosa wrote:..at last!

1841: Wilkes's Fold, Rowley Regis
William Willitts 35 Labourer
Mary Willitts 35
Sarah Willitts 13
Benjamin Willitts 10
Samuel Willitts 8
Daniel Woodhall 64

next door: (already on Connections)

William Willette 80 Ind
Hannah Willette 85
Hannah Willette 50 Nailmaker
Hantany Willette 50
Jetham Willette 35
Elizebeth Willette 25
Edward Willette 20
Joseph Willette 18
Mary Willette 17
James Willette 10
Edward Willette 5

Next door is: Thomas and Parthena Willetts & Family


I am pretty sure this is the family you are looking for. Samuel who Married Fanny Jackson was Baptised 1833 Halesowen. But lived In Rowley I would think. The above family are nothing to do with mine, just co-incidences of names dates etc. I will look up Samuel Willetts Bap in 1833 and see what it says. Best Wishes Linell.
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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Hurrah Samuel's Baptism says son of William and Mary Old Hill Nailer. Pear Tree Stret is Old Hill rather than Rowley, near Old Hill Cross. Best Wishes Linell.
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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Can we safely presume William and Mary Wilkes fold c 1841are son and daughter in law William and Hannah wilkes Fold .
Can they be added to tribal. The willetts have always been a nightmare to sort out.
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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suki wrote:Can we safely presume William and Mary Wilkes fold c 1841are son and daughter in law William and Hannah wilkes Fold .
Can they be added to tribal. The willetts have always been a nightmare to sort out.


I haven't been following this thread so will leave those that have to discuss and liaise with what should and shouldn't go on
all I will say is let's ensure what ever goes on has been checked as well as we possibly can.
You all know we can access archives ....and I might be a bit slow but will do them.
So better safe than sorry on Connections.

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Hi all, all I can say is there were two Wm and Mary Willetts in this scenario, one lot in Hayley Green and the other in Pear Tree Street Old Hill, more or less the same age. Samuel baptised Halesowen 1833 is the son of Wm and Mary in Pear Tree Street. So Suki that is the connection you need. Best Wishes Linell.
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Re: Edward Willetts b abt 1863

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Agree its best to be cautions . Better to be slow and really sure, The whole undertaking is becoming a mamouth job.
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1841: Wilkes's Fold, Rowley Regis
William Willitts 35 Labourer
Mary Willitts 35
Sarah Willitts 13
Benjamin Willitts 10
Samuel Willitts 8...................... MARREID FANNY JACKSON
Daniel Woodhall 64

HERE THESE

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =554749668

next door: (already on Connections)

William Willette 80 Ind
Hannah Willette 85
Hannah Willette 50 Nailmaker
Hantany Willette 50 ANTHONY
Jetham Willette 35
Elizebeth Willette 25
Edward Willette 20
Joseph Willette 18
Mary Willette 17
James Willette 10
Edward Willette 5

Next door is: Thomas and Parthena Willetts & Family

HERE THESE


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=17543263


so is william living next door to william and hannah there son ?
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