Downing

[Northern Lass]

Thanks RF for marriages and for Jabez one

Jimmy adding that now to Bcc will add link in min

Father is Edward Downing for jabez

is there a marriage for Edward and Mary pls

[Northern Lass]

can we find Edward and Mary on 1841 pls and 1851
and do they have a dau Keturah?

1864
HARPER Joseph DOWNING Catura Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/003/109

[sp1]

That was quick!
Where did Thomas b 1834 come from? - edit - just seen the notes re marriage, so now I know!!

[Northern Lass]

That was quick!
Where did Thomas b 1834 come from?

he was on already

but need census for the family
got bapts but not got time to add them

[Northern Lass]

can someone with the Halesowen transcripts verify this pls

I can then add it

EDWARD DOWNING
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY SMITH
Marriage: 28 OCT 1827 Halesowen, Worcester,
submitted record

[sp1]

The census would be useful - there seem to be two (submitted) possibles on IGI - both with same parents (Thomas & Mary) both bapt St Thomas, Dudley : one 1805 and one 1812 so the earlier one probably died??
Unless the census points us in a different direction of course.......

[Northern Lass]

are any of this lot on 1841 and 1851 pls
with parents Edward Downing and mother Mary

do we have Jabez on 1851?

1. JOHN DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 01 OCT 1832

2. JOHN DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 NOV 1832 Baptist Chapel, Dudley, Worcester, England

3. SARAH DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 JUL 1830 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

4. SARAH DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 18 MAY 1831

5. SARAH DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 NOV 1832 Baptist Chapel, Dudley, Worcester, England

6. THOMAS DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 17 SEP 1834

7. THOMAS DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 JAN 1837 Baptist Chapel, Dudley, Worcester, England

8. JAMES DOWNING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 APR 1829 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

[rockyfowler]

28 Oct 1827 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Edward DOWNING otp Bach
Mary SMITH otp Spin
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; John Raybould Sarah Smith

[Northern Lass]

28 Oct 1827 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Edward DOWNING otp Bach
Mary SMITH otp Spin
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; John Raybould Sarah Smith

thanks Rf

[FarSide]

Poss
1841
Bowling Green, Dudley
Edwd Downing 30 - Whamsey? man (occ crossed out)
Mary Downing 30 - Dressmaker
Sarah Downing 11
Thos Downing 7
Mary Downing 4
Kettina Downing 1
all b in c

[sp1]

Poss
1841
Bowling Green, Dudley
Edwd Downing 30 - Whamsey? man (occ crossed out)
Mary Downing 30 - Dressmaker
Sarah Downing 11
Thos Downing 7
Mary Downing 4
Kettina Downing 1
all b in c

The last child is 'Kettura'
I think Edwards occupation is 'Whimsey Man' - the crossing through doesn't help!

[sp1]

Have been looking for Edward b abt 1850/1 - remember him: Jabez's brother who was with him in 1861.

The only possibility I can find is:
1881 28 Penrith Street, Barrow in Furness:
Edwd Downing, head, 31, engine driver, b Dudley
Harriet, wife, 31, b Staffordshire
Margt, dau, 9
Kiturah, dau, 7
Benje, son, 5
Chas, son, 6m
Children all b Lancashire

Interesting that there is a Keturah there?

This Edward & Harriet are in Crown Street, Dalton, Barrow, in 1871, no one else with them - wife's birthplace Staffordshire, ?Old ------
Can't find them at any other date.

[sp1]

Think I have found possible marriage for them:
Jun 1868 Dudley 6c 87 Edward Downing & Harriet Hughes

[sp1]

Have just realised the witness names on Jabez's marriage: Joseph Harper and Keturah Harper.

So looked for a marriage and found:
Mar 1864 Dudley 6c 65 Joseph Harper and Catura!! Downing.

I wonder if she is the one in the 1841 census above with Edward & Mary and therefore quite likely to be Jabez's sister?

[sp1]

BINGO!!

1881 19 Spring Meadow, Rowley Regis:

Joseph Harper, head, 41 b Dudley
Keturah, wife, 40, b Dudley
Edward, son, 13
Joseph, son, 8
Sarah, dau, 4
Keturah, dau, 1
Mary Whitehouse, mother in law, 73, b Dudley
Rest born Rowley Regis

Think that confirms it and ties it all together nicely.