UPDATE..................Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
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Re: Black Country Harveys
who are you looking for i am a black country harvey and all were born in oldbury can i help
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Re: Black Country Harveys
I will start adding some of this as a new family till we know we can connect. Makes more sense when you see it down.
Jo
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
1861. Tory Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 29, Miner coal, Oldbury
Mary Ann, wife, 24, Northamptonshire
Betsey, daur, 2,
Thomas, son, 1 month
Sarah Ann Stephenton, servant, 21, Servant & nail maker
All others born Rowley Regis
1871. Hackett Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 39, Coal Miner, Oldbury
Mary A, wife, 32, Rowley
Betsy, daur, 12, nailer, Oldbury
Thomas, son, 10, Whittlebury? Northamptonshire
William, son, 7
Joseph, son, 4,
John, son, 2, Tipton
Charles Palmer, visitor, 17, Bricklayers labourer, Gloucester NK
1881.33 Hackett Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 49, Coal Miner, Oldbury
Mary, wife, 44, Birmingham
Thomas, son, 20, Rivett maker, Old Hill
William, son, 17, Labourer at iron works, Old Hill
Joseph, 14, Old Hill
John, son, 12, Tipton
Clara, daur, 7, Black Heath, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 29, Miner coal, Oldbury
Mary Ann, wife, 24, Northamptonshire
Betsey, daur, 2,
Thomas, son, 1 month
Sarah Ann Stephenton, servant, 21, Servant & nail maker
All others born Rowley Regis
1871. Hackett Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 39, Coal Miner, Oldbury
Mary A, wife, 32, Rowley
Betsy, daur, 12, nailer, Oldbury
Thomas, son, 10, Whittlebury? Northamptonshire
William, son, 7
Joseph, son, 4,
John, son, 2, Tipton
Charles Palmer, visitor, 17, Bricklayers labourer, Gloucester NK
1881.33 Hackett Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 49, Coal Miner, Oldbury
Mary, wife, 44, Birmingham
Thomas, son, 20, Rivett maker, Old Hill
William, son, 17, Labourer at iron works, Old Hill
Joseph, 14, Old Hill
John, son, 12, Tipton
Clara, daur, 7, Black Heath, Rowley Regis
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
Do you have any birth or marriage certs?
We cant check this out...
Freebmd
Marriages Dec 1855
BASTABLE Michael Stourbridge 6c 326
HARVEY Sarah Stourbridge 6c 326
HARVEY Thomas Stourbridge 6c 326
NEWMAN Mary Ann Stourbridge 6c 326
Jo
We cant check this out...
Freebmd
Marriages Dec 1855
BASTABLE Michael Stourbridge 6c 326
HARVEY Sarah Stourbridge 6c 326
HARVEY Thomas Stourbridge 6c 326
NEWMAN Mary Ann Stourbridge 6c 326
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
I am so sorry everyone! I've been telling my husband that no one has replied to my post at all - I thought a notification would come through on my normal email! Thank you so much for all this - I'm printing it off now and will go through it and answer the points raised as soon as I can.
My apologies again.
Barb 46
My apologies again.
Barb 46

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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
No worries
You should get notifications to your email address...
Jo

You should get notifications to your email address...
Jo

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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
Hi again,
I'll go through the posts from the beginning and answer any queries - forgive me if I duplicate what someone else posts further on in the thread. There is now such a lot of information to absorb at one go!
I have Edna Harvey's BC and she was born 11th April 1923 to Sarah Harvey, formerly Chatwin, and William Harvey, boiler maker.
I have the MC for William Harvey and Sarah Chatwin - married July 22nd 1916 in Blackheath, Worcester, Reg. district Stourbridge. The groom's father is John Harvey, collier. So rockyfowler has the right entry.
I have William's BC born 24th Dec. 1894 3 Powke Lane, Rowley Regis. His father is John Harvey and his mother Sarah Harvey, formerly White.
I don't know at all who Ann Daniells is in 1901. Very odd with Sarah's surname being White.
Northern Lass - thank you for the point that Samuel calls his daughter Esther - does suggest it's his mother's name.
John Harvey, born c.1811 by my dates but 1809 on BCC, does say in the 1851 Census that he was born in Shropshire, but in 1861 he states Oldbury Worcs. Is this the source for the two different birth counties for the BCC John Harveys? Are they actually one and the same person and therefore the same as "my" John Harvey?
I have a note saying John and Sarah Steventon were married c. 1828, but no more than that.
Thank you all again for doing so much. Please let me know if there is any more information that anyone needs.
Best Regards,
Barb46
I'll go through the posts from the beginning and answer any queries - forgive me if I duplicate what someone else posts further on in the thread. There is now such a lot of information to absorb at one go!
I have Edna Harvey's BC and she was born 11th April 1923 to Sarah Harvey, formerly Chatwin, and William Harvey, boiler maker.
I have the MC for William Harvey and Sarah Chatwin - married July 22nd 1916 in Blackheath, Worcester, Reg. district Stourbridge. The groom's father is John Harvey, collier. So rockyfowler has the right entry.
I have William's BC born 24th Dec. 1894 3 Powke Lane, Rowley Regis. His father is John Harvey and his mother Sarah Harvey, formerly White.
I don't know at all who Ann Daniells is in 1901. Very odd with Sarah's surname being White.
Northern Lass - thank you for the point that Samuel calls his daughter Esther - does suggest it's his mother's name.
John Harvey, born c.1811 by my dates but 1809 on BCC, does say in the 1851 Census that he was born in Shropshire, but in 1861 he states Oldbury Worcs. Is this the source for the two different birth counties for the BCC John Harveys? Are they actually one and the same person and therefore the same as "my" John Harvey?
I have a note saying John and Sarah Steventon were married c. 1828, but no more than that.
Thank you all again for doing so much. Please let me know if there is any more information that anyone needs.
Best Regards,
Barb46

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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
Hi Barb
Can you send us the scans of the certifs so we can add to Bcc
we like to see the actual info before we add to the tree.
Pm me if you need the email address dont post any emails on the forum will you.
Shropshire covered Halesowen in 1841 and I think Oldbury was in Halesowen
someone will verify and confirm or deny that I am sure
- need to see William's BC born 24th Dec. 1894 3 Powke Lane, Rowley Regis certif then we can add that.
and then we can add this....HARVEY John WHITE Sarah 1890 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/2/34
and do you then have that certif for that marriage too pls
so if you have those we can add to Bcc.
Can you send us the scans of the certifs so we can add to Bcc
we like to see the actual info before we add to the tree.
Pm me if you need the email address dont post any emails on the forum will you.
Shropshire covered Halesowen in 1841 and I think Oldbury was in Halesowen
someone will verify and confirm or deny that I am sure

- need to see William's BC born 24th Dec. 1894 3 Powke Lane, Rowley Regis certif then we can add that.
and then we can add this....HARVEY John WHITE Sarah 1890 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/2/34
and do you then have that certif for that marriage too pls
so if you have those we can add to Bcc.
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
grangers14 wrote:Do you have any birth or marriage certs?
We cant check this out...
Freebmd
Marriages Dec 1855
BASTABLE Michael Stourbridge 6c 326
HARVEY Sarah Stourbridge 6c 326
HARVEY Thomas Stourbridge 6c 326
NEWMAN Mary Ann Stourbridge 6c 326
Jo
And do you have this pls Barb
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
Then we need to look at these 2 John Harvey need some census pls someone
we have a John Harvey with parents Samuel and Rosannah here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... vey-Family
is he the same as this one married to a Sarah Here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =847331833
then we need to see if it is same as your John Harvey but we need that marriage of Thomas Harvey and Mary ann too
Where is John Harvey on 1851 pls
any bapts for his kids?
we have a John Harvey with parents Samuel and Rosannah here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... vey-Family
is he the same as this one married to a Sarah Here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =847331833
then we need to see if it is same as your John Harvey but we need that marriage of Thomas Harvey and Mary ann too

Where is John Harvey on 1851 pls
any bapts for his kids?
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
Where is this Thomas in 1851 pls someone
1861. Tory Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 29, Miner coal, Oldbury
Mary Ann, wife, 24, Northamptonshire
Betsey, daur, 2,
Thomas, son, 1 month
Sarah Ann Stephenton, servant, 21, Servant & nail maker
All others born Rowley Regis
I know we need marriage for thomas and mary ann but that name Stephenton
is there on 1841 here....
1841 Blackheath, Rowley
John Harvey 30 - Miner
Sarah Harvey 47
John Harvey 12 (poss bro living next door on 61)
Thos Harvey 10
Ambrus Harvey 8
Sarah Harvey 6
Mary Steventon 15
all n b in c
need thomas in 1851 pls
1861. Tory Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Harvey, head, 29, Miner coal, Oldbury
Mary Ann, wife, 24, Northamptonshire
Betsey, daur, 2,
Thomas, son, 1 month
Sarah Ann Stephenton, servant, 21, Servant & nail maker
All others born Rowley Regis
I know we need marriage for thomas and mary ann but that name Stephenton
is there on 1841 here....
1841 Blackheath, Rowley
John Harvey 30 - Miner
Sarah Harvey 47
John Harvey 12 (poss bro living next door on 61)
Thos Harvey 10
Ambrus Harvey 8
Sarah Harvey 6
Mary Steventon 15
all n b in c
need thomas in 1851 pls
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
I think that is Thomas so have connected
but Barb still need certifs if you got em
have added Ambrose and connected him up to
and bapts for John sarah and ambrose
but Barb still need certifs if you got em
have added Ambrose and connected him up to
and bapts for John sarah and ambrose
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
Northern Lass wrote:Hi Barb
Can you send us the scans of the certifs so we can add to Bcc
we like to see the actual info before we add to the tree.
Pm me if you need the email address dont post any emails on the forum will you.
Shropshire covered Halesowen in 1841 and I think Oldbury was in Halesowen
someone will verify and confirm or deny that I am sure
- need to see William's BC born 24th Dec. 1894 3 Powke Lane, Rowley Regis certif then we can add that.
and then we can add this....HARVEY John WHITE Sarah 1890 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/2/34
and do you then have that certif for that marriage too pls
so if you have those we can add to Bcc.
You're right NL - Oldbury was in Halesowen, Shropshire in 1841
There's no place like home ......
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Re: Black Country Harveys--Jo adding
Thanks Maggie
now where is John Harvey in 1871 or do we have a death
his age is between 1809 and 1811
his place of birth is prob Oldbury Halesowen Shropshire..............?
so either Oldbury/shrops works
this is doin me nut in
I so want to connect but Grangers will shout

now where is John Harvey in 1871 or do we have a death
his age is between 1809 and 1811
his place of birth is prob Oldbury Halesowen Shropshire..............?
so either Oldbury/shrops works
this is doin me nut in
I so want to connect but Grangers will shout
