John Mckeown and son help needed ARC TBC

[dazwhites2003]

Hi. I am trying to find some information about my great great grandfather. His name was John Mckeown (no birth or death date at the moment but I believe he died before 1919), his son was also called John Mckeown born 1882 married to Jane Walker in 1919 in Chorlton, they had two children John Mckeown born 1921 and Joseph born 1928. I have been told that my great great grandfather's father was originally from Ireland and moved to England before John was born. This is all the information I have so its rather difficult to research, just hoping someone with more experience than me may be able to help? Infact any more information reguarding any of the above John Mckeown's would be amazing!
Many thanks
Darren

[rockyfowler]

his son was also called John Mckeown born 1882 married to Jane Walker in 1919 in Chorlton, best to send for this marriage cert it would have the fathers occup plus wits might be helpful? best RF

[dazwhites2003]

Yep got his sons marriage certificate through. John Mckeown married Jane Buckley 6th or 16th of Sept 1919 at St Annes Catholic Church Openshaw, this originally gave me the name of my great great grandfather, his profession was a blacksmith and he is down on the certificate a deceased at the time of the marriage. So all i know is my great great grandfather in named John Mckeown, was a blacksmith and died before 1919. Having trouble trying to find a birth or death date for him plus there are a number of John Mckeown's in the census records, one of which I sure is him.

[Northern Lass]

So you have the actual marriage for John and Jane?
can you post all the info
any wits on?
They are sometimes very helpful

What about his death it should have the age on
Where did he die?

YOu can work out a possible birthdate then see if a likely birth fits.
What about census have you them on census

[Northern Lass]

Yep got his sons marriage certificate through. John Mckeown married Jane Buckley 6th or 16th of Sept 1919 at St Annes Catholic Church Openshaw, this originally gave me the name of my great great grandfather, his profession was a blacksmith and he is down on the certificate a deceased at the time of the marriage. So all i know is my great great grandfather in named John Mckeown, was a blacksmith and died before 1919. Having trouble trying to find a birth or death date for him plus there are a number of John Mckeown's in the census records, one of which I sure is him.

so this is the marriage

1919
WALKER * Jane MCKEOWN John Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registar Attended Manchester CHO_RM/278/88

have you got the certif?

[Northern Lass]

Can someone post some Census pls

are you sure he is born 1882
just there is this one


1886
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MCKEOWN John J Chorlton-on-Medlock Manchester CHO/145/55

[mallosa]

There is this one....

1891: 2 Burton Street, Greengate, Salford, Lancashire
John McKeown 47 Head Smith Striker Ireland
Mary J McKeown 39 Wife Ireland
Elizabeth McKeown 18 Dau Salford
John McKeown 9 Son Barrow in Furnace

[dazwhites2003]

The marriage certificicate is for John Mckeown age 37 (1882) and Jane Walker Buckley age 33 (1886), she had been previously married hence the two names. Married 1919 at St Annes Catholic Church. I believe Johns profession was a dyer, Janes profession left blank. Johns residence at time of marriage was Salford and Janes was Droylsden. Johns father's name was also John Mckeown he was a blacksmith - deceased and Janes was James Walker- deceased. The witnesses present were Samuel Walker and Agnus Smith. The Jane Mckeown I am looking for is Johns daughter from his first marriage, before he married Jane Buckley. Just some happens there are two Janes in the equation which does confuse things.

Does any of this help/make sence

[Northern Lass]

So does the marriage say she is a widow and he a widower?



1919 at St Annes Catholic Church
John Mckeown age 37 -profession was a dyer -residence Salford - father's name John Mckeown blacksmith deceased
and Jane Buckley age 33 - residence Droylsden. -Fathers name James Walker- deceased.
The witnesses present were Samuel Walker and Agnus Smith.

[Northern Lass]

There is this one....

1891: 2 Burton Street, Greengate, Salford, Lancashire
John McKeown 47 Head Smith Striker Ireland
Mary J McKeown 39 Wife Ireland
Elizabeth McKeown 18 Dau Salford
John McKeown 9 Son Barrow in Furnace

do we have the 1901 and 1911 pls for this family

[rockyfowler]

1901
BARRY, James Head Married M 25 1876 General Joiner
Ireland
BARRY, Mary A Wife Married F 23 1878 Cook Not Domestic
Pendleton
Lancashire
MCKEOWN, Mary J Mother-In-Law Widow F 51 1850
Ireland
MCKEOWN, John Brother-In-Law Single M 19 1882 Cloth Stiffener
Barrow in F
Lancashire
DAVIES, Daniel Boarder Single M 24 1877 General Labourer
Ireland

82, Langshaw Street, Pendleton
Lancashire

[rockyfowler]

1911
MCKEOWN, John Head Married
1 years M 30 1881 Boiler Coverer For Keeping Heat In And Saving Fuel Barrow in Furness Lancs
MCKEOWN, Mary Ann Wife Married F 39 1872 Ring Spinner For The Cotton Trade Salford Lancashire
Lancashire


MCKEOWN John BARNES Mary A Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Salford SAL/110/98 1911