Joseph Armstrong/ Sarah Bates

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This is follow on from Rachel Sadler Thread

Dennis and Census says that Joseph married an Hannah
but Maggie has Sarah Bates on bcc

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... i=41456855

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Joseph Armstrong married Hannah Carter 1890 Stourbridge

1891 Census 48 Trinity Street Oldbury West Bromwich Staffs.
John Carter Head 48 Forge Roller born Walsall Staffs.
Ann M. Carter wife 48 born Netherton Staffs.
Ellen Carter dau 18 Tobacconist Asst.
John Carter son 14 Forge Rollers Appr.
Samuel R. carter son 11 Scholar
William H. Carter son 8 8 Scholar
Hannah Armstrong dau 26
Joseph Armstrong son.in.law 24 Plumber born Oldbury worcs.
Rest born Langley Worcs.

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Could it have been Joseph 2nd marriage??

Sarah Armstrong
Oct-Nov-Dec 1888
Age at Death: 23
West Bromwich Staffordshire
Volume: 6b Page: 515

[Dennis]

Joseph Armstrong Hannah abt 1867 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Head Oldbury, Worcestershire
Hannah Armstrong Joseph abt 1872 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Wife Oldbury, Worcestershire
Wilson Armstrong abt 1892 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Oldbury, Worcestershire

Young Wilson was born in about July 1891. I'm pretty sure he's in the 1920 and 1930 USA censuses with Joseph and Hannah his parents and his wife Daisy M Armstrong.

[Dennis]

In 1920 USA census:

Joseph Armstrong Hannah Cambridge, Crawford, Pennsylvania abt 1871 England Head
Hannah Armstrong Joseph Cambridge, Crawford, Pennsylvania bt 1872 England Wife
Wilson Armstrong Joseph,Hannah, Daisy M Cambridge, Crawford, Pennsylvania abt 1892 England Son
Daisy M Armstrong Wilson Cambridge, Crawford, Pennsylvania abt 1893 England Wife

Wilson Armstrong is such an unusual name in England, it's likely to be them, I would guess. But what about Joseph's age? He's got younger!

[Dennis]

This is the family in the 1930 census. Joseph has been widowed and Wilson has remarried:

Wilson Armstrong Joseph, Mary J, Howland, Trumbull, Ohio abt 1892 England Head
Mary J Armstrong, Wilson, Howland, Trumbull, Ohio abt 1896 Pennsylvania Wife
Joseph Armstrong, Howland, Trumbull, Ohio abt 1866 England Father

Joseph emigrated to the USA in 1908, Wilson in 1910. Wilson's new American wife is a stenographer, Wilson is a 'lead burner', as he was in 1920, Joseph has no job recorded.

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1901 Census 87 Farm Road Oldbury West Bromwich Staffs.
Joseph Armstrong Head 34 Plumber
Hannah Armstrong wife 29
Wilson Armstrong son 9
All born Oldbury Worcs.

1911 Census 9 Trinity Street Oldbury West Bromwich Staffs.
Hannah Armstrong wife 40 (m) born Langley Worcs.
Wilson Armstrong son 19 Lead Burner
James Tolley lodger 22 Assisting in Business born Bewdley Worcs.
All born Oldbury Worcs.

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Second marriage theory may be right

ARMSTRONGJosephBATESSarahRowley Regis, St GilesSandwell Register Office18/7/187 1888

but Sarah Armstrong noted as dying in oct/nov/dec quartile of 1888

so depends on when wedding was
and it ties up as wedding was in july/aug/sept quartile

I will post marriage for look up

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Marriage Details Provided by RF : <br>Joseph Armstrong, 23, B, Plumber,of Long Lane, Father John Armstrong, Rect.....?<br>Sarah Bates, 22, S, of Long Lane, Father David Bates, Labourer<br>Wit : Thomas Holland and Catherine Holland

Already on bcc so second marriage is confirmed as father John Armstrong was a Rectifier of Acid

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Complete and all added
Thanks Dennis and Graingers