This Rachel Sadler married to Freeman York
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =190419856
Could be this Rachel Sadler ( Connects to Maggie)
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =804427365
As right location and age
COMPLETED...................Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853
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Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853
I have a distant connection to this family, I think, Mumbles, via Clara A York(e) b. 4 Jan 1874 Langley, Oldbury, Worcestershire d. 1957? who married Job Albert Armstrong b. 17 July 1871 Oldbury, Worcestershire on 20 Nov 1895 Stourbridge. Job Albert's sister Sara Ann Armstrong b. Oldbury c. 1875 married my great uncle Francis Xavier Wood 17 Dec 1870 Perrott Street, Oldbury, d. c. 1930 Oldbury (son of William Wood 1832-1898 and Matilda Wright 1845-Aft. 02 Apr 1911) on 4 Nov 1897 at St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury. They had at least 6 children in Oldbury, Bernard 10 Sep 1898-c. 1991; Agnes 10 Nov 1900; Martha 31 Dec 1902; Henry 1904; and Albert 16 May 1906. Agnes and Martha never married and looked after the Big House, the 18th c. house in Oldbury, as caretakers in the 1920s or 1930s.
Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853
If I'm right, there's a connection with the Cliftons on BCC. I think this is the line:
Descendants of James Clifton
Generation No. 1
1. JAMES1 CLIFTON was born Abt. 1806 in Worcestershire. He married HANNA UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1811 in Worcestershire.
Child of JAMES CLIFTON and HANNA UNKNOWN is:
2. i. SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, b. 08 Mar 1839, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. 1895.
Generation No. 2
2. SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON (JAMES1) was born 08 Mar 1839 in Oldbury, Worcestershire, and died 1895. She married JOHN ARMSTRONG 1861 in Old Church, Smethwick, Staffordshire, son of JOHN ARMSTRONG. He was born Abt. 1840 in Smethwick, Staffordshire.
Notes for JOHN ARMSTRONG:
"Rectifier of Acid" in 1861 and 1881 censuses. Resident with family at 49 Tat Bank Road, Oldbury, Worcs in 1881. Foreman in chemical works.
Children of SARAH CLIFTON and JOHN ARMSTRONG are:
i. HANNAH J3 ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1862, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
3. ii. JOHN JAMES ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. Mar 1863, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
4. iii. JOSEPH ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1866, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
5. iv. JOB ALBERT ARMSTRONG, b. 17 Jul 1871, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
6. v. SARA ANN ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. Jul 1874, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
vi. WILLIAM ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1879, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for WILLIAM ARMSTRONG:
"Iron Turner" ("Fitter") in 1901 census, aged 22, boarder in Oldbury, Worcs.
vii. BENJAMIN ARMSTRONG, b. 02 Jan 1868, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. 1869.
viii. HENRY ARMSTRONG, b. 05 Aug 1870, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. 1870.
Generation No. 3
3. JOHN JAMES3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born Abt. Mar 1863 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. He married HANNAH. She was born Abt. 1862 in Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for JOHN JAMES ARMSTRONG:
"Blacksmith striker" in 1881 census. In 1901 census "Railway Carriage Wagon Foreman" resident with family at 224 Colville Road, Melton Constable with Burgh Parva, Walsingham, North Norfolk.
Children of JOHN ARMSTRONG and HANNAH are:
i. MARTHA E4 ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1879, Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for MARTHA E ARMSTRONG:
In 1901 census "Music Teacher" working on own account and living with parents in Melton Constable, Norfolk.
ii. JOHN J ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1882, Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for JOHN J ARMSTRONG:
"Loco Pattern Maker" in 1901 census living with parents in Melton Constable, Norfolk.
iii. LILIAN ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1884, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
Notes for LILIAN ARMSTRONG:
"Schoolteacher" aged 17 in 1901 census living with parents in Melton Constable, Norfolk.
iv. ETHEL ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1889, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
v. EDITH ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1889, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
vi. LEWIS ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1892, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
vii. MILLICENT ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1899, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
viii. REGINALD ARMSTRONG, b. 1900, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
4. JOSEPH3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1866 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. He married HANNAH. She was born Abt. 1872 in Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for JOSEPH ARMSTRONG:
"Plumber" in 1881 census.
Child of JOSEPH ARMSTRONG and HANNAH is:
i. WILSON4 ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1892, Oldbury, Worcs.
5. JOB ALBERT3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born 17 Jul 1871 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. He married CLARA A YORKE 20 Nov 1895, daughter of JOHN YORKE and SARAH UNKNOWN. She was born 04 Jan 1874 in Langley, Oldbury, Worcestershire, and died 1957.
Notes for JOB ALBERT ARMSTRONG:
Name recorded as Job A. Armstrong in 1891 census.
Children of JOB ARMSTRONG and CLARA YORKE are:
7. i. JOHN4 ARMSTRONG, b. 27 May 1896, West Bromwich, Staffordshire; d. 1979, Victoria, Australia.
8. ii. FLORENCE ARMSTRONG, b. 30 Jul 1902, West Bromwich, Staffordshire; d. 1975, West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
6. SARA ANN3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born Abt. Jul 1874 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. She married FRANCIS XAVIER WOOD 04 Nov 1897 in St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury, Worcs, son of WILLIAM WOOD and MATILDA WRIGHT. He was born 17 Dec 1870 in Perrott Street, Oldbury, Worcs, and died Abt. 1930.
Marriage Notes for SARA ARMSTRONG and FRANCIS WOOD:
Married by Father Jonathan Thompson. Witnesses: William Armstrong and Ann Boden. In the 1901 census William Armstrong is resident in Oldbury, aged 20, "Silversmith".
Children of SARA ARMSTRONG and FRANCIS WOOD are:
i. ALEC4 WOOD? b. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
9. ii. BERNARD WOOD, b. 10 Sep 1898, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. Abt. 1991.
iii. AGNES WOOD, b. 10 Nov 1900, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for AGNES WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R c church, Oldbury, on November 10, 1900. Baptismal sponsors: John Wood and Margaret Higgins. Agnes and Martha, unmarried sisters, were still living in Churchbridge, Oldbury in the 1960s, in a shop situated next to the Manchester Stores pub. They earlier had a flat in "The Big House", a listed eighteenth-century house in Oldbury town.
iv. MARTHA WOOD, b. 31 Dec 1902, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for MARTHA WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury, on December 31, 1902. Baptismal sponsor: Beatrice Wood.
v. HENRY WOOD, b. 1904, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for HENRY WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury on 18 June 1904. Baptismal sponsor: Beatrice Wood.
vi. ALBERT WOOD, b. 16 May 1906, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for ALBERT WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury, on May 24, 1905. Baptismal sponsor: Margaret Wood.
Descendants of James Clifton
Generation No. 1
1. JAMES1 CLIFTON was born Abt. 1806 in Worcestershire. He married HANNA UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1811 in Worcestershire.
Child of JAMES CLIFTON and HANNA UNKNOWN is:
2. i. SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, b. 08 Mar 1839, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. 1895.
Generation No. 2
2. SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON (JAMES1) was born 08 Mar 1839 in Oldbury, Worcestershire, and died 1895. She married JOHN ARMSTRONG 1861 in Old Church, Smethwick, Staffordshire, son of JOHN ARMSTRONG. He was born Abt. 1840 in Smethwick, Staffordshire.
Notes for JOHN ARMSTRONG:
"Rectifier of Acid" in 1861 and 1881 censuses. Resident with family at 49 Tat Bank Road, Oldbury, Worcs in 1881. Foreman in chemical works.
Children of SARAH CLIFTON and JOHN ARMSTRONG are:
i. HANNAH J3 ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1862, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
3. ii. JOHN JAMES ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. Mar 1863, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
4. iii. JOSEPH ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1866, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
5. iv. JOB ALBERT ARMSTRONG, b. 17 Jul 1871, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
6. v. SARA ANN ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. Jul 1874, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
vi. WILLIAM ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1879, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for WILLIAM ARMSTRONG:
"Iron Turner" ("Fitter") in 1901 census, aged 22, boarder in Oldbury, Worcs.
vii. BENJAMIN ARMSTRONG, b. 02 Jan 1868, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. 1869.
viii. HENRY ARMSTRONG, b. 05 Aug 1870, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. 1870.
Generation No. 3
3. JOHN JAMES3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born Abt. Mar 1863 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. He married HANNAH. She was born Abt. 1862 in Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for JOHN JAMES ARMSTRONG:
"Blacksmith striker" in 1881 census. In 1901 census "Railway Carriage Wagon Foreman" resident with family at 224 Colville Road, Melton Constable with Burgh Parva, Walsingham, North Norfolk.
Children of JOHN ARMSTRONG and HANNAH are:
i. MARTHA E4 ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1879, Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for MARTHA E ARMSTRONG:
In 1901 census "Music Teacher" working on own account and living with parents in Melton Constable, Norfolk.
ii. JOHN J ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1882, Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for JOHN J ARMSTRONG:
"Loco Pattern Maker" in 1901 census living with parents in Melton Constable, Norfolk.
iii. LILIAN ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1884, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
Notes for LILIAN ARMSTRONG:
"Schoolteacher" aged 17 in 1901 census living with parents in Melton Constable, Norfolk.
iv. ETHEL ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1889, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
v. EDITH ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1889, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
vi. LEWIS ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1892, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
vii. MILLICENT ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1899, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
viii. REGINALD ARMSTRONG, b. 1900, Melton Constable, Norfolk.
4. JOSEPH3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1866 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. He married HANNAH. She was born Abt. 1872 in Oldbury, Worcs.
Notes for JOSEPH ARMSTRONG:
"Plumber" in 1881 census.
Child of JOSEPH ARMSTRONG and HANNAH is:
i. WILSON4 ARMSTRONG, b. Abt. 1892, Oldbury, Worcs.
5. JOB ALBERT3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born 17 Jul 1871 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. He married CLARA A YORKE 20 Nov 1895, daughter of JOHN YORKE and SARAH UNKNOWN. She was born 04 Jan 1874 in Langley, Oldbury, Worcestershire, and died 1957.
Notes for JOB ALBERT ARMSTRONG:
Name recorded as Job A. Armstrong in 1891 census.
Children of JOB ARMSTRONG and CLARA YORKE are:
7. i. JOHN4 ARMSTRONG, b. 27 May 1896, West Bromwich, Staffordshire; d. 1979, Victoria, Australia.
8. ii. FLORENCE ARMSTRONG, b. 30 Jul 1902, West Bromwich, Staffordshire; d. 1975, West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
6. SARA ANN3 ARMSTRONG (SARAH ANN2 CLIFTON, JAMES1) was born Abt. Jul 1874 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. She married FRANCIS XAVIER WOOD 04 Nov 1897 in St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury, Worcs, son of WILLIAM WOOD and MATILDA WRIGHT. He was born 17 Dec 1870 in Perrott Street, Oldbury, Worcs, and died Abt. 1930.
Marriage Notes for SARA ARMSTRONG and FRANCIS WOOD:
Married by Father Jonathan Thompson. Witnesses: William Armstrong and Ann Boden. In the 1901 census William Armstrong is resident in Oldbury, aged 20, "Silversmith".
Children of SARA ARMSTRONG and FRANCIS WOOD are:
i. ALEC4 WOOD? b. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
9. ii. BERNARD WOOD, b. 10 Sep 1898, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. Abt. 1991.
iii. AGNES WOOD, b. 10 Nov 1900, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for AGNES WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R c church, Oldbury, on November 10, 1900. Baptismal sponsors: John Wood and Margaret Higgins. Agnes and Martha, unmarried sisters, were still living in Churchbridge, Oldbury in the 1960s, in a shop situated next to the Manchester Stores pub. They earlier had a flat in "The Big House", a listed eighteenth-century house in Oldbury town.
iv. MARTHA WOOD, b. 31 Dec 1902, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for MARTHA WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury, on December 31, 1902. Baptismal sponsor: Beatrice Wood.
v. HENRY WOOD, b. 1904, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for HENRY WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury on 18 June 1904. Baptismal sponsor: Beatrice Wood.
vi. ALBERT WOOD, b. 16 May 1906, Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Notes for ALBERT WOOD:
Baptized at St Francis Xavier R C church, Oldbury, on May 24, 1905. Baptismal sponsor: Margaret Wood.
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Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853
Looks like the same one Mumbles I would connect up
only one on free bmd
Births Mar 1853
Sadler Rachel W Bromwich 6b 324
Sadler Rachel W Bromwich 6b 524
Some great connections Dennis
shall we sticky this to work thru
who wants to go thru and verify?
so we can link to Cliftons and wood from armstrong
only one on free bmd
Births Mar 1853
Sadler Rachel W Bromwich 6b 324
Sadler Rachel W Bromwich 6b 524
Some great connections Dennis
shall we sticky this to work thru
who wants to go thru and verify?
so we can link to Cliftons and wood from armstrong
Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---NL sorting
Nl, I am still working on York family and will link Clara York to Armstrong
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Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---NL sorting
mumbles wrote:Nl, I am still working on York family and will link Clara York to Armstrong
oh brill are you working thru all this lot?
which would save me doing it
so linking up to Woods etc?
Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---NL sorting
Yes NL
Have added this already and Dennis info ties up as they call son Freeman after other Freeman Yorks in Family
1901 Census 18 Titford Road Oldbury West Bromwich Staffs.
Job Albert Armstrong Head 29 Iron Turner Fitter Works
Clara Annie Armstrong wife 27
John Armstrong son 4
Freeman Armstrong son 3
All born Langley Worcs.
1911 Census 58 Lyttleton Street West Bromwich Staffs.
Job Albert Armstrong Head 39 Engineering Mechanic Turner
Clara Annie Armstrong wife 37
John Armstrong son 14 Engineering Mechanic Turner
Freeman Armstrong son 13 Scorer ( Glass Works)
Florence Annie Armstrong dau 8 School
Clara Jane Armstrong dau 6 School
Job Armstrong son 3
15 years married,5 children, 5 living
All born Langley Worcs.
Have added this already and Dennis info ties up as they call son Freeman after other Freeman Yorks in Family
1901 Census 18 Titford Road Oldbury West Bromwich Staffs.
Job Albert Armstrong Head 29 Iron Turner Fitter Works
Clara Annie Armstrong wife 27
John Armstrong son 4
Freeman Armstrong son 3
All born Langley Worcs.
1911 Census 58 Lyttleton Street West Bromwich Staffs.
Job Albert Armstrong Head 39 Engineering Mechanic Turner
Clara Annie Armstrong wife 37
John Armstrong son 14 Engineering Mechanic Turner
Freeman Armstrong son 13 Scorer ( Glass Works)
Florence Annie Armstrong dau 8 School
Clara Jane Armstrong dau 6 School
Job Armstrong son 3
15 years married,5 children, 5 living
All born Langley Worcs.
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Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---Mumbles sorting
okedoke nice one Mumbles and Dennis
let me know when you finished and I will archive this thread
let me know when you finished and I will archive this thread
Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---Mumbles sorting
John Armstrong father of Job is already on bcc and other son Joseph Armstrong married to Sarah Bate
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =636734461
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =636734461
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Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---Mumbles sorting
mumbles wrote:John Armstrong father of Job is already on bcc and other son Joseph Armstrong married to Sarah Bate
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =636734461
are you ok to connect up or do you need help?
do you want marriage?
Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---Mumbles sorting
Ok Nl I am working my way steadily through and no need for marriages yet as it all ties up on Census
Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---Mumbles sorting
Still working on this Nl and Cliftons are interesting as they were Boatmen and were all over the country
and many died very young in their 30's ( Occupational Hazard)
Some settled in Northampton and left £450 and £1000 in wills so must have been well paid occupation
and many died very young in their 30's ( Occupational Hazard)
Some settled in Northampton and left £450 and £1000 in wills so must have been well paid occupation
Re: Two Rachel Sadler born c. 1853---Mumbles sorting
All complete and all connections made and info added except all those baptism records which Dennis might want to add
Re: COMPLETED...................Two Rachel Sadler born c. 18
Northamptonshire was a big canal hub for the whole country, mumbles, there's a canal museum on the Grand Union at Stoke Bruerne. I have quite a few family connections from Northamptonshire with Oldbury - boat building, bargees etc. - which was also a big canal place with its own loop through the centre of the town, as well as the 'main line'.