ARC TBC.....................Detheridge Family

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ARC TBC.....................Detheridge Family

Post by zircon »

Hi all

I have seen a lot of information about the Detheridge family from Dudley
Up until about 15 years ago i knew nothing about them, until my father was contacted by the salvation army to say he was the cousin of a Gittins who had passed away

In clearing out the belongings he came across a family bible/tree that contained lots of information

Jospeh Detheridge married Susannah Nicklin as we know their children where
Eliza born 24 May 1858 died 23 May 1862
Hannah b 9 4 1860 no further info
Maria b 14 4 1863 in Constition Hill married John Charles Gittins b 31 8 1863
Edward b 13 4 1865 d 8 1 1873
Daniel b 16 8 1868

amongst the effects where a reference to a Harry Shaw which is after some investigation we know susannna married thomas Shaw

John Charles Gittins sister Sarh married a George Gamson b1862 this is where we come into it one of George sisters married my Great grandfather

I do have some dates of births and deaths etc mainly for the Gittins/Gmson families
I hope this opens up a few brick walls for people
regards
rob
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Re: Detheridge Family

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So its this family on BCC?
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... dge-Family


There is a Henry on the BCC tree and that name is not mentioned in your list.

What a lovely thing to have!

Jo :)
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Re: Detheridge Family

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Hi Zircon did you contact the Black Country Connections tree?
if you did I can dig out your email if you send me your email in a pm don't post it on the open forum.

Can someone verify this lot and church and we can add to Bcc
what a fantastic find! :grin:
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Ive just been looking and I think there is a mistake on BCC.
There is a Daniel Detheridge born 1868 and theres Daniel Shaw born 1869, I think they are the same.

I wonder what happend to the other children and who Thomas Shaw was previosly married to?
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grangers14 wrote:Ive just been looking and I think there is a mistake on BCC.
There is a Daniel Detheridge born 1868 and theres Daniel Shaw born 1869, I think they are the same.

I wonder what happend to the other children and who Thomas Shaw was previosly married to?


Yep think you are right I will delete him
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zircon wrote:.................

Jospeh Detheridge married Susannah Nicklin as we know their children where
Eliza born 24 May 1858 died 23 May 1862
Hannah b 9 4 1860 no further info
Maria b 14 4 1863 in Constition Hill married John Charles Gittins b 31 8 1863
Edward b 13 4 1865 d 8 1 1873---------------------------------------query on dob 13 or 23 nl
Daniel b 16 8 1868.............-------------------------------------checks nl

regards
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Ok query on Edward ...this would need checking
EDWARD DETHERIDGE Birth: 23 APR 1865

Christening: 07 MAY 1865 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Death: 08 JAN 1873
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH DETHERIDGE
Mother: SUSANNA Extracted
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Zircon does it say 13 or 23 for Birth in bible

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DANIEL DETHERIDGE Birth: 16 AUG 1868
Christening: 13 SEP 1868 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH DETHERIDGE
Mother: SUSANNA Extracted
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HENRY DETHERIDGE Birth: 17 JAN 1870
Christening: 27 FEB 1870 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Death: 17 JUL 1871 -------------------------this would need tbc
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH DETHERIDGE Mother: SUSANNA
Extracted

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Re: Detheridge Family

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births of the detheridge children
Hannah 9 4 1860
Maria 14 4 1863
Daniel 16 8 1868
Harry 6 12 1880
Eliza 24 5 1858
Edward 13 4 1865

Harry shaw b 6 12 1880

Further info
Maria Detheridge
address constitution hill
dob 14 4 1863
f joseph detheridge whitesmith
m susannah detheridge formerly nicklin
date registered 15 5 1863 baptised in the parish church of dudley 3 5 1863

when maria married john charles gittins she put detheridge on the marriage certificate

that is all the info i have on detheridges all the rest is mainly the gittins family and some on the gamson family of dudley

regards rob
my mother retains the original copies i only have what i wrote down some 15 years ago
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Ok thanks Zircon :grin:
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Re: Detheridge Family

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Therer is a refernce to a harry shaw on ancestry , his war record which states he married sarah elizabeth jewkes in dudley in 1907 but by the time he enlists he lives at 5 hereford square high st saltley birmingham his occupation is given as warehouse man

in 1911 his address is 65 goodrich st nechells bham married for 3 years no children occupation warehouseman fender and fire irons

re thomas shaw i cant identify him prior to 1881 , his occupations are given as 1881 drayman 1891 boileryard labourer 1901 time keeper and watchan all thirty years lived at 54 vicars st dudley which in 1871 is the address of eliza nicklin josephs detheridges mother in law
i wonder who was living in the house in 1911

it looks like susannah died in mar 1903 in dudley age 80
there are 2 thomas shaw deaths both age 71 one in 1901 and 1905 the one in 1905 looks like him
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Northern Lass wrote:
zircon wrote:.................

Jospeh Detheridge married Susannah Nicklin as we know their children where
Eliza born 24 May 1858 died 23 May 1862
Hannah b 9 4 1860 no further info
Maria b 14 4 1863 in Constition Hill married John Charles Gittins b 31 8 1863
Edward b 13 4 1865 d 8 1 1873---------------------------------------query on dob 13 or 23 nl
Daniel b 16 8 1868.............-------------------------------------checks nl

regards
rob


Ok query on Edward ...this would need checking
EDWARD DETHERIDGE Birth: 23 APR 1865

Christening: 07 MAY 1865 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Death: 08 JAN 1873
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH DETHERIDGE
Mother: SUSANNA Extracted
------------------------------------------

Zircon does it say 13 or 23 for Birth in bible

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DANIEL DETHERIDGE Birth: 16 AUG 1868
Christening: 13 SEP 1868 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH DETHERIDGE
Mother: SUSANNA Extracted
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HENRY DETHERIDGE Birth: 17 JAN 1870
Christening: 27 FEB 1870 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Death: 17 JUL 1871 -------------------------this would need tbc
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH DETHERIDGE Mother: SUSANNA
Extracted

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HANNAH DITHERIDGE
Birth 09 APR 1860
Christening 29 APR 1860 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father JOSEPH DITHERIDGE
Mothe SUSANNA

MARIA DETHERIDGE
Birth 14 APR 1863
Christening 03 MAY 1863 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Father JOSEPH DETHERIDGE
Mother: SUSANNA

ELIZA DITHERIDGE
Birth: 24 MAY 1858
Christening 06 JUN 1858 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Death: 23 MAR 1862
Father JOSEPH DITHERIDGE
Mother SUSANNA
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Sme children with inlaws.

Transcribed as Betteridge looks like Detheridge
1871. 8 John Street, Dudley
Emma Newey, head, Mar, 31, Brass Casters wife
Mary, daur, 10,
Charles H, son, 8,
George, son, 6,
Herbert, son, 5,
Walter, son, 4 months
Hannah Detheridge, niece, 10,
Maria Detheridge, niece, 7,
Edward Detheridge, nephew, 5,
All born Dudley
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Ive added in some more info and the marriage for Susannah and Thomas Shaw is in for look ups.

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I have added in bapts

the only one where there is a discrepancy is Edward 13 or 23 for bapt

can someone add in 1871 census pls on family ie notes of Joseph just to show where kids are pls
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Re: Detheridge Family

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Do you have this marriage pls Zircon

1886
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DETHERIDGE * Maria GITTENS John Dudley, St Luke Dudley Register Office 223/001/138
DETHERIDGE * Maria GITTINS John Dudley, St Luke Dudley Register Office 223/001/138
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Ok Zircon

so we can connect pls on Bcc

this is the marriage you mention
1890
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GAMSON * George T GITTINGS Sarah A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/040/4
GAMSON * George T GITTINS Sarah A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/040/4


is this your connection
1895
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GAMSON Margaret A VAUGHAN John C Tipton, St John Sandwell Register Office 36/2/269
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