Florence White, Frederick John Edwards, Horace M Hackett

[grangers14]

I think that was my spelling error and it is Clerkenwell.
Yes its best to get certs to confirm. Im not sure if there is a way to find about name changes?
I think it would be best to split this topic as its rather big and its hard to pick out pieces for others to help you. I will do it.
Jo

[maree.hackett]

Thanks again Jo - yes, it is getting a bit confusing. Thanks for offering to sort out the splitting. All the Horace/Henry/Harry's don't help either!

Cheers
M.

[grangers14]

I havent had chance to add anymore. But it looks like there is a tree on ancestry, are you a member?
If not I could contact the person and direct them to the forum to see if you have a connection? They have Jones and Hackett too.
Jo

[maree.hackett]

Found the link to Gwilliam Ergyng's tree - is that the same one?

Looks like everything lines up with what you found Jo.

M.

[grangers14]

Yep I think thats the one.
Good luck in getting in touch. Would love to know how you get on.
Jo

[maree.hackett]

Hey Jo

Have had several emails from Lindsey - tree owner - already. It's the same motley crew. Now there's another person trying to sort out the Florence, Horace, Frederick saga. The plot thickens.

It looks like Florence Maud White and Horace Mansell Jones (alias Hackett) possibly married in 1895 with Horace using the name Arthur Hackett??! They had three children, Horace, Marie and Henry Conrad. In Dec 1901 Horace married Mabel Burgess. By 1911 Florence was with Frederick John Edwards and they'd had Leslie...but all 4 children were raised as Edwards'. It also appears that Florence and Frederick may have married in 1918?!

I shall continue on with my quest. Thanks for all you help.

Shall we mark this thread completed or do you think someone may yet know Leslie Edwards or Florence?

Cheers
M.

[grangers14]

moving this to general as it doesnt at the moment seem to cover the BC area

do you have the Birth certifs for any of the kids?

how do you know mother is florence white
and the fathers name?

could this be them

Marriages Mar 1895

Diver Arthur Benjamin Shoreditch 1c 170
Hackett Arthur Shoreditch 1c 170
Needham Emily Shoreditch 1c 170
White Florence Maud Shoreditch 1c 170
do we have the family on 1911 pls anyone

That marriage is what NL noted. It would be worth getting to check occupation and fathers name.
Brilliant glad you got in touch!

This can be archived. It is still searchable in the archives and if anyone wants it back then they can contact a moderator to do it.
If you want any help on any thing just start another thread. Some times more eyes are better!
Jo

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is this horace ?

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956

Horace M Hackett
Arrival Date: 24 Nov 1913
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age: 37
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests

down as dealer
married
city toronto
father henry hackett
destination detroit, mich

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Name: Horace Mancell Jones
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 419


Marriages Mar 1889

Bennett Eliza Charlotte J Islington 1b 419
Hackett Henry Islington 1b 419


this is him

1891; 81 liverpool rd, islington, london

Henry Hackett 58 commercial agent, Upper Thames Street, London,
Eliza C Hackett 36
Emily Hackett 23
Horace Hackett 14
Amy Hackett 11
Kate Hackett 9
Cecil Hackett 7 Brixton, London
Charles Hackett 5 Brixton, London
Kate Harrie (harris) 18 Leamington, Warwickshire

rest islington

poss same house ?


1891; 81 liverpool rd, islington, london

George H White 32 Camden, London
Sarah White 24 Islington, London
Elen White 2 Dalston, London
Homer White 8/12 Islington, London

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Name: Mr Horace Hackett
Ship Name: Ivernia
Date of Arrival: 28 Feb 1913 usa


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Horace Munsell Hackett

Name: Horace Munsell Hackett
City: Detroit
County: Wayne
State: Michigan
Birth Date: 3 May 1877
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 2023785
DraftBoard: 4


job manufacturing *** motor
wife mabel hackett
address 2886 e ***? build? detriot

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london

1911; 62 Doddington Grove, Kennington S E

Horace Hackett 34 TURF ACCOUNTANT Islington London
Mabel Hackett 30 Shoreditch London
Montague Hackett 8 St Lukes London
Harold Hackett 7 New York U S A
Cecil Hackett 3 Rotherhithe London
Winifred May Hackett 1 Rotherhithe London
Lawrence Houchin 25 boarder Willesdon London

married 9 years 5 born 4 alive

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this marriage cert will tell you if his father henry ?

Marriages Mar 1895

Diver Arthur Benjamin Shoreditch 1c 170
Hackett Arthur Shoreditch 1c 170
Needham Emily Shoreditch 1c 170
White Florence Maud Shoreditch 1c 170

but if horace why arthur as first name ?

[peterd]

only marriage i can find for horace

Marriages Dec 1901

BURGESS Mabel Shoreditch 1c 269
HACKETT Horace Shoreditch 1c 269

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this marriage cert will tell you if his father henry ?

Marriages Mar 1895

Diver Arthur Benjamin Shoreditch 1c 170
Hackett Arthur Shoreditch 1c 170
Needham Emily Shoreditch 1c 170
White Florence Maud Shoreditch 1c 170

but if horace why arthur as first name ?

this might be the above arthur ?

1881; 1 Culford Road, London, Middlesex

Henry J. HACKETT 35 St Pancras, Middlesex, Engraver On Wood Unemployed
Mary A.L. HACKETT 33 St Pancras, Middlesex,
Harry G. HACKETT 14 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Junior Clerk Solicitors Office
Charles W. HACKETT 12 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Office Boy
Nellie L. HACKETT 10 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Scholar
Arthur F. HACKETT 8 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Scholar
Alfred P. HACKETT 5 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Scholar
Lizzie E. HACKETT 3 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Scholar

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1920 usa

Hoarce Hackett 42
Mabel Hackett 39
Montague Hackett 17
L Harold Hackett 16
Cecil Hackett 11
May Hackett 9
Alberta Hackett 6
Marjorie Hackett 3
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Jane Hackett 65 mother
Tony Miller 39