King

[gardenboffin]

KING - Thomas born 1852 Dartington. Married Elizabeth NORRISH 1875 at Newton-Abbot, Devon.
Son Alfred KING born 1875, Totnes
Identified in the 1901 Cencus plus grandaaughter, Annie.
No sign of any of the family in 1911 Census.

Need help in finding this family.

[peterd]

poss ?

1881; Week, Dartington, Devon,

Thomas KING 32 Dartington, Devon, Agl Labourer
Elizabeth KING 36 Lidford, Devon,
Alfred KING 10 Totnes, Devon, Scholar
John NORRISH Visitor 17 Lidford, Devon, England Agl Labourer


wonder what the image says for alfred ?

[grangers14]

For the 1881 census Peterd?

If it is the image says 10 for Alfred.

[MarkCDodd]

Annie in 1911? Only worry is Widecombe in Moor is about 14 miles from her 1901 birth place of Totnes.

1911 census transcription details for: Vicarage Widecombe Ashburton
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN12735 RG78PN732 RD272 SD4 ED11 SN25

Reg. District: Newton Abbot Sub District: Ashburton
Parish: Widecombe in the Moor Enum. District: 11
Address: Vicarage Widecombe Ashburton
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
PICKERING, John Thomas Head Married M 70 1841 Clerk In Holy Orders Leicester
PICKERING, Ellen Jane Wife Married 22 years F 54 1857 Binsted Surrey
PICKERING, Dorothy Mary Daughter Single F 21 1890 None Culmstock Devon
ELLIS, Edith Gwendolen Niece Single F 20 1891 None Culmstock Devon
KERWICK, Rosa Florence Servant Single F 17 1894 Cook - Domestic Widecombe in Moor Devon
KING, Annie Servant Single F 14 1897 Housemaid Domestic Widecombe in Moor Devon

[MarkCDodd]

Is Alfred a sailor?

1901 census transcription details for: TribuneTwin Screw Cruiser 2nd Class
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 5335 Folio: 10 Page: 11

Reg. District: Royal Navy At Sea and in Ports Abroad Sub District:
Parish: Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address:
County: Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad
Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation , Disability Where Born
KING, Alfred Members Of Crew Single M 26 1875 Armourer's Mate Applepen Devonshire

[MarkCDodd]

Alfred in 1911?

1911 census transcription details for: 196 Cardiff Road Aberaman
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN32516 RG78PN1857 RD590 SD4 ED37 SN67

Reg. District: Merthyr Tydfil Sub District: Aberdare
Parish: Aberdare Enum. District: 37
Address: 196 Cardiff Road Aberaman
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
THOMAS, Rachel Head Married 15 years F 36 1875 Aberaman Glam
THOMAS, Cardeven Daughter F 14 1897 Aberaman Glam
THOMAS, John Son M 10 1901 Mountain Ash Glam
KING, Fred Boarder Married M 36 1875 Bricklayer Newton Abbott Devon
KING, Elizabeth Boarder Married F 26 1885 Mountain Ash Glam

[gardenboffin]

Thank you Mark, granger and peterd.
We could not find a birth date for Annie. 2 possibilities were : "'Annie, Sept 1896 Newton Abbot, 5b 113"
and "Annie Elizabeth W. ,Jun 1897 Taunton, 5c 290".
Could not find an identifiable marriage for Alfred but possibe wife was Elizabeth Wheeler In ?? Middlesex. this was in ancestry .com
could not find any deaths identifiable for these three.
Is there a way of finding if Annie married?
Or if Alfred and Elizabeth had more children?

[Jimmy]

KING - Thomas born 1852 Dartington. Married Elizabeth NORRISH 1875 at Newton-Abbot, Devon.
Son Alfred KING born 1875, Totnes
Identified in the 1901 Cencus plus grandaaughter, Annie.
No sign of any of the family in 1911 Census.

Need help in finding this family.

What was Alfreds occupation.

[Jimmy]

There is this Thomas, right area. I don't have full access.

1911. Totnes, Devon. Basics.

KING THOMAS. 1853. 58. Labourer. born Devon.

[cid]

1911

17 Cistern St Totnes

KING, Thomas Head Married M 58 1853 Farm Labourer Devon Sarkington
KING, Emily Wife F 34 1877 Devon Newton
KING, George Edwin Son M 1 1910 Totnes Devon
KING, Amy Rosina Stepdaughter F 10 1901 School Totnes Devon

Married 4 years 2 children born 1 still alive

could well say Dartington, it's none too clear

[cid]

1891 Cistern Street Totnes

KING, Thomas Head Married M 40 1851 Dairy Farmer Dartington Devonshire
KING, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1845 Lidford Devonshire

[Jimmy]

1901. Devonport.
Thomas H Bickle 22. Stoker. Weriton, Devon.
Emily L Bickle 22. Wife. Newton Abbot, Devon.
Elizabeth Bickle 12. Sister. Herrow Barrow, Cornwall.

Deaths Mar 1905.
Bickle Thomas Henry. 26. Devonport. 5b. 263.

The only marriage I can see,

Marriages Sep 1909.
BICKLE Emily Julia. Plymouth. 5b. 478.
GLANVILLE William Henry C. Plymouth. 5b. 478.
KING Thomas Cornish. Plymouth. 5b. 478.
LAUNDER Mabel Ann. Plymouth. 5b. 478.

[Jimmy]

Marriages Jun 1899.
Bickle Thomas Henry. Devonport. 5b. 657.
Green Harry Theodore N. Devonport. 5b. 657.
Johns Matilda Janie A. Devonport. 5b. 657.
Stuart Emily Louisa. Devonport. 5b. 657.

[Kiap01]

[quote="MarkCDodd"]Is Alfred a sailor?
Hi Mark.
One Alfred was a sailor. Two Alfreds were born in 1875 in Devon. They were 1st cousins via grandapents Thomas KING (c1811-1838) + Susanna STONE (c1816-1903). Alfred the sailor was born 1875 Littlehampson, son of James KING + Susan HOWE, died 11 Feb 1910 Rawson Hospital, Buenos Ayres, Argentina of typhoid - was Chief Steward on "Canova" [Marine Register March 1910 102193]
The other Alfred appears to be a bricklayer, if he is the one you identified in the 1911 Census at Aberdare, Glamorganshire. The 'migration' to Wales may be supported by 'migration' of another 1st cousin Henry John KING + Laura FIELD to Pontnewynydd, Monouth between 1901-1904. Henry had been a stone quarry forman and by 1911 a mason. The Henry KING 'twig' died out by 1941.
Would be interesting to know what happened to Alfred + Elizabeth
Would be even more interesting to know what happened to daughter Annie - are there grand-children out there?
By the way, James KING + Susan HOWE are my great-great-grandparents: where do you and gardenboffin fit into the tree?