*Archived* Thomas Morris and Mary?

[sirrom]

Hello Pete not sure how it all works yet The names Ive got are ABEL MORRIS b1870 d1952..JOB MORRIS b1846 d1925 married MARGARET CLIFT b1845 d1917 these married25/12/1865..JOBs father was Thomas not sure though an is mother was Mary MARGs father James an mother Elizabeth its the mothers MARY n ELIZABETH maiden name I would realy like to know.
not sure wether NL is checkin Elizabeth cus we was talkin via email before I joined up..... ok thanks Graham

[peterd]

Hello Pete not sure how it all works yet The names Ive got are ABEL MORRIS b1870 d1952..JOB MORRIS b1846 d1925 married MARGARET CLIFT b1845 d1917 these married25/12/1865..JOBs father was Thomas not sure though an is mother was Mary MARGs father James an mother Elizabeth its the mothers MARY n ELIZABETH maiden name I would realy like to know.
not sure wether NL is checkin Elizabeth cus we was talkin via email before I joined up..... ok thanks Graham

well NL will stick it on the right board the we take a look

[Northern Lass]

Ok Sirrom you are with us now cheers admin for movin it

So we can try and help you

[Northern Lass]

THOMAS MORRIS
Spouse: MARY WORTON
Marriage: 07 JUN 1836 Sedgley, Stafford, Extracted

I wonder if this is the marriage for Thomas Morris and Mary.
On the 1871 she is living with Job and Margaret and puts down looks like Sedgley.
On the 1861 she is with husband thomas and puts down Gornal.
Eldest child is b abt 1838 on that census.
So this would fit.

[peterd]

JOB MORRIS b1846 d1925 married MARGARET CLIFT b1845 d1917 these married25/12/1865.. well that fits these

1881 census

39 Hackett St, Rowley Regis, Stafford, Eng


Selina BRITTLE Head W Female 49 Sedgley, Stafford, Green Grocer

Job MORRIS Boarder (Head) 35 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner
Margaret MORRIS 36 Halesowen, Worcester,
Elizabeth MORRIS 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Abel MORRIS 11 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Job MORRIS 9 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Emily MORRIS 5 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Isaiah MORRIS 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

[Northern Lass]

As regards the other one James Clift and Elizabeth ?

cant see a marriage that fits.

On the 1861 census they are living Warley Wigon Quinton Staffs area
with the head being a John Clift age 27 farmer so this might be an elder son of James and Elizabeth.

they put down b warley wigon worcs so not sure if it came under staffs or worcs
census got staffs on.

[peterd]

here the marriage

Job Morris Age at Marriage: 19 Father: Thomas Morris
Margaret Clift Age at Marriage: 20 Father: James Clift

Marriage: 25 DEC 1865 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

[peterd]

nl job was born rowley c1846 you got records for that if so any siblings as well?

[peterd]

there always a possibility that clift has been mistranscribe and is down as cliff that why you cannot find them in 1871?

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nl job was born rowley c1846 you got records for that if so any siblings as well?

wonder if this could be him as nearest i could find jacob shortened to job?

MORRIS Jacob 1845 Dudley West Midlands Dudley Register Office

[Northern Lass]

Ok found James Clift on the 1851 and 1841 with wife Elizabeth.
Eldest child is a Joseph b abt 1831maybe bit earlier 1827 age 20 on there and ages rounded down.

So cant see a marriage on IGI.

Maybe the best idea if no marriage or no inlaws is to get the birth certif of one of the kids which will have the mothers maiden name on.

1851 living at Cakemore worcs
1841 living at Oldbury H/owen worcs ( looks like overend )

and again with the Morris ones the certif would confirm the maiden name of mother Mary.

[peterd]

As regards the other one James Clift and Elizabeth ?

cant see a marriage that fits.

On the 1861 census they are living Warley Wigon Quinton Staffs area
with the head being a John Clift age 27 farmer so this might be an elder son of James and Elizabeth.

they put down b warley wigon worcs so not sure if it came under staffs or worcs
census got staffs on.

came across this whilst looking for some thing else i knew Warley Wigon and clift rang a bell dont know if this ties in though might be worth a look ?

1881 census

Aron WILLIAMS Head 66 Halesowen, Worcester, Farm Labourer
Mary WILLIAMS Wife 68
Mary A. WILLIAMS Grand Daughter 17 Warley Wogorn, Worcester, England Nailer
Jno. CLIFT Lodger W 71 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Annuitant
James SMITH Lodger U 60 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nailer


60 Hackett St, Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

[Northern Lass]

Hi sirrom just flaggin this to see if we could move it to the archived section/

It can always be brought back for further discussion with new info found.

So unless otherwise advised will move to archived enquiries within 24 hrs