Thomas & Elizabeth Taylor in Quinton 1800s

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Thomas & Elizabeth Taylor in Quinton 1800s

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I have some more Taylors,
Dudley Registry Office is trying so hard to help me find my William Taylor :-)
We were hoping to find the one on the Quinton School Register with birthdate listed as 8th Feb 1878...parent/guardian Elizabeth Taylor...occupation nailer..resident Quinton
... but so far they can find none with the birthdate I had suggested , or with Joseph as the father.

I received another email from them today..... re the Quinton School register and noticed that there was another William Taylor on there ( born 20th Feb 1882)
This one's mother is named as Elizabeth, a nailer and resident in Quinton, but the father is Thomas Taylor. On the School Register parent/guardian is listed as Thomas Taylor resident in Crock Street....and there are 2 other children on there ( John born 12th Feb 1879 and Elizabeth born 25th Jul 1885)
the following marriage would fit...

1877...TAYLOR Thomas.... WOOD Elizabeth ....Halesowen, St John the Baptist .....Dudley Register Office 014/004/314
( I have posted this for lookup)

I think this is the family on the 1881 census
Hagley Road, Ridgacre, Worcestershire, England
Thomas Taylor (30) potter, wife Elizabeth(22) and son John(2) all born Quinton

and in 1891....Crock Street, Hill, Worcestershire, England
Thomas Taylor(39) flower pot maker, wife Elizabeth(31), sons John(12) & William(9) and daughter Elizabeth(5) all born Quinton

and 1901...New England, Hill, Worcestershire, England
Thomas Taylor(49) road mender, wife Elizabeth(41), son William(19) single..labourer in tube works, daughter Elizabeth(15), son Thomas(9) all born Hill, Worcs., lodger Henry Shrettch? (61) widow..labourer on rd. born Halesowen

As the son William is still living with the family ( and still single) in 1901 this can't be my William Taylor... as I already have found my great grandparents in 1901 living in Langley.

BUT... I am wondering if there is some connection between these Quinton Taylors and my William.
Going back to that school register ....(I have listed entries below )
...the William Taylor born in 1878 was admitted to the school in Sept 1883 ( so after the 1881 census)...
Is the Elizabeth Taylor ( nailer) the same Elizabeth that is the mother of the Taylor children with father as Thomas?
Could she be his Aunt? or some other relative acting as guardian .... did something happen to this William's parents and he moved in with the family after that 1881 census?
If so, he is not living with them in 1891.
I suppose another possibility is that this Elizabeth Taylor is a single mum .. could she be related to John Taylor?

498 1883 9 Taylor William 8 2 1878 Elizabeth Taylor Nailer Quinton
525 1884 3 Taylor John 12 2 1879 Thomas Taylor Labourer Crock Street
680 1887 6 Taylor William 20 2 1882 Thomas Taylor Labourer Crock Street
884 1891 4 Taylor Elizabeth 25 7 1885 Thomas Taylor Labourer Crock Street
974 1893 4 Taylor Annie 24 11 1886 William Taylor Labourer Quinton
975 1893 4 Taylor Florence Eliz 18 1 1889 William Taylor Labourer Quinton

I am thinking that I will apply to GRO for a birth certficate for William Taylor born on 8th Feb 1878, father Joseph ( not quite sure what to put down for 'place' though... should I put Quinton or Worcs/Staffs?) ..... this may clarify things if they can find one :wink:

In the meantime... I am trying to see if I can find any Joseph Taylors associated with this Quinton family .... did John Taylor have a brother Joseph? or a sister Elizabeth?

Any help trying to sort out this greatly appreciated :wink:
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Re: Thomas & Elizabeth Taylor in Quinton 1800s

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Gosh Jimmy that was fast! Thankyou :P

.... Jimmy found this marriage

Halesowen. St Johns.
27 Dec 1877.
Thomas TAYLOR. 26. bachelor. potter. Quinton. John TAYLOR carter.
Elizabeth WOOD. 19. spinster. nailer. Boro. Father unknown.

Witnesses, Joseph SMART. Fanny POWELL.

That ties in with some censuses I have found..
1871..Crock Street, Hill, Worcestershire, England
John Taylor(54) wagoner born Crock St, Quinton, wife Harriett(55) nailmaker and son Thomas(19) unmarried potter.. all born Quinton

1861...Crock Street, Hill, Worcestershire, England
John Taylor(45) waggoner born Lutley, Worcs, wife Harriett(46) nail maker born Hill, son Thomas(9) born Ridgeacre, daughter Heria(5) born Ridgeacre

1851..New Rd, Ridgacre, Worcestershire, England
John Taylor (31) collier born Halley? Green, wife Harriett (32) born Hary Wood? Halesowen, Jemima Milton(2) nurse child born Birmingham

( what does that mean.... nurse child ... is she looking after someone else's child and acting as 'nurse maid?, )

Haven't found any other children for John & Harriett ( sort of hoping there would either be a Joseph or an Elizabeth?)
and don't have 1841 census yet
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Re: Thomas & Elizabeth Taylor in Quinton 1800s

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1851..New Rd, Ridgacre, Worcestershire, England
John Taylor (31) collier born Halley? Green, wife Harriett (32) born Hary Wood? Halesowen, Jemima Milton(2) nurse child born Birmingham

Hi Expat I have a book of transcripts for the Halesowen Census, just checked your entry above, John Taylor was born Hayley Green Lutley, where I used to live, and Harriet was born Haywood, which is at the bottom of Mucklows Hill, there was a 'Haywood Forge.' Jemima is a 'Child at Nurse' so Harriet must have been looking after her, wonder if she was just a foundling or a relation :?:

Lots of Taylors in the index though :!:

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Re: Thomas & Elizabeth Taylor in Quinton 1800s

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are you still looking for info on this thread?

if so what do you still need

or do you want to archive
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Re: Thomas & Elizabeth Taylor in Quinton 1800s

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linell wrote:1851..New Rd, Ridgacre, Worcestershire, England
John Taylor (31) collier born Halley? Green, wife Harriett (32) born Hary Wood? Halesowen, Jemima Milton(2) nurse child born Birmingham

Hi Expat I have a book of transcripts for the Halesowen Census, just checked your entry above, John Taylor was born Hayley Green Lutley, where I used to live, and Harriet was born Haywood, which is at the bottom of Mucklows Hill, there was a 'Haywood Forge.' Jemima is a 'Child at Nurse' so Harriet must have been looking after her, wonder if she was just a foundling or a relation :?:

Lots of Taylors in the index though :!:

Linell.


Thanks Linell
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Re: Thomas & Elizabeth Taylor in Quinton 1800s

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Northern Lass wrote:are you still looking for info on this thread?

if so what do you still need

or do you want to archive



I would still like to find them in 1841...
I will post in lookups instead, so you can archive this thread
Thankyou
Expat :P
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