Joseph Taylor ( born abt 1860 Langley)

[expat66]

I found this Joseph Taylor in 1901 living quite close to my great grandparents William & Hannah Taylor and am trying to work out if he is a relative.

1901...49 Old Park Lane, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Joseph Taylor(41) assist. caustic furnace, wife Louisa(40) and daughter Annie(11) all born Langley

I think this is them in 1891
62, Titford Road, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Joseph Taylor(31) labourer chemical works, wife Louisa(30), children Henry(8), Lucy(6), Clara(5), Amy(1) all born Langley

I can't find a marriage for Joseph & Louisa and haven't been able to find them pre. 1891
If I could find that marriage it would be a start
... need help , again!

Thankyou
Expat

[expat66]

I found these two possibles?

1882...TAYLOR Joseph....FRENCH Louisa....Smethwick, St Paul ...Sandwell Register Office ...9/2/94
1886...TAYLOR Joseph....HADLEY Louisa....Rowley Regis, St Giles...Sandwell Register Office...18/6/472

Expat

[MarkCDodd]

1911 census transcription details for: 6 Church St Oldbury
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN17269 RG78PN1060 RD371 SD2 ED14 SN42

Reg. District: West Bromwich Sub District: Oldbury
Parish: Oldbury Enum. District: 14
Address: 6 Church St Oldbury
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
TAYLOR, Joseph Head Married M 51 1860 Assistn In Caustic Maing Worcestershire Oldbury
TAYLOR, Louisa Wife Married 28 years F 50 1861 Worcestershire Oldbury
TAYLOR, Lucy Daughter Single F 26 1885 Assist In Shop At Home Worcestershire Oldbury
TAYLOR, Annie Daughter Single F 2 1909 Assist In Shop At Home Worcestershire Oldbury
TAYLOR, May Granddaughter Single F 5 1906 School

Married for 28 yearsin 1911, that would make his wife Louisa French or Louisa Bates.

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: TAYLOR, Joseph
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 6D
Page No: 110
MarriageFinder: Joseph Taylor married one of the following people
BATES, Louisa
CAUKWELL, Annie Elizabeth
SATCHWELL, George


I would put my money of Louisa French as there is not a suitable birth for Louisa Bates.

Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: FRENCH, Louisa
Registration District: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 598

[MarkCDodd]

Looking at all the suitable Joseph Taylor in the 1881 census, this is the only one that fits. Others, including another Joseph Taylor who married a Louisa, are traceable.

1881 census transcription details for: Warley Wigorn Henry St, Warley-Wigorn (Worcs)
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2841 Folio: 45 Page: 28

Reg. District: West Bromwich Sub District: Oldbury
Parish: Warley-Wigorn (Worcs) Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Warley Wigorn Henry St, Warley-Wigorn (Worcs)
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TAYLOR, Lucy Head Widow F 40 1841 Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Thomas Son Single M 23 1858 Labourer Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Joseph Son Single M 21 1860 Labourer Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Frederick Son Single M 17 1864 Labourer Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Lucy Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Samuel Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Frank Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Ammplias Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Oldbury Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Annie E Daughter Single F 4 1877 Oldbury Worcestershire

That would make his father a Thomas.

1871 census transcription details for: Maud Street, Oldbury
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 2977 Folio: 67 Page: 37

Reg. District: West Bromwich Sub District: Oldbury
Parish: Oldbury Enum. District: 20
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Maud Street, Oldbury
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
TAYLOR, Thomas Head M 40 1831 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Lucy Wife F 33 1838 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Thomas Son M 13 1858 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Joseph Son M 12 1859 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Louisa Daughter F 10 1861 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Frederick Son M 8 1863 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Emma Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Lucy Daughter F 4 1867 Worcestershire
TAYLOR, Samuel Son M 1 1870 Worcestershire

[Antie Em]

Morning

Just throwing a bit of a spanner into the works here. William says he was born in Quinton on two separate census records.

I have found a possible William Taylor here, on the Quinton Schools Admissions Records : here http://www.qlhs.org.uk/

Date of Birth
No. Year Mth Surname Christian Name Day Mth Year Parent/Guardian Occupation Address
498 1883 9 Taylor William 8 2 1878 Elizabeth Taylor Nailer Quinton

I have looked for a possible Elizabeth in 1881 in the area, but can't find her.

My granddad was illegitimate and made up a name for his father on his two marriage certificates.

Maggie

[expat66]

Thankyou Mark & Antie Em for all the info.

I think that Joseph may be a 'red herring' though I wonder if he is relative of some sort?... maybe he will connect up to my William Taylor somewhere.

Funny how Henry Street keeps cropping up, because my Dad grew up there ... but the connection would seem to be with the Kettle branch of the family

1937 marriage...St Michael's Church, Langley, Worcs. George Ernest KETTLE(28) bachelor (filer) of 5 Henry St, Langley Green- father Albert KETTLE (dec.) rd. sweeper. Bride Ruth Lydia Mercy Hannah TAYLOR(25) spins.- 48 Walton Rd, Warley, Quinton- father William TAYLOR (lab.) - wit.David & Florence Taylor

Antie Em... don't mind if you throw some spanners in the works ..... best to keep things on track ... it is so easy to get 'thrown off course' isn't it

I had another good look at that school register for Quinton

http://qlhs.org.uk/archive/quinton-nati ... 2-1894.htm

and investigated the other Taylors on there ... the Crock Street ones don't look like they are 'mine' as there is another William who is a bit younger .. so I ruled out that family.
The Walter Bayior ( glove cutter) is , I think Taylor not Bayior & I can't see my William in his household.
Still can't find that Elizabeth Taylor.
and I haven't found that William Taylor ( labourer..Quinton) household either

I have emailed Dudley Reg. office to see if they can help me narrow down some potential birth certificates ... thinking that the William Taylor with birth listed as 8th Feb 1878 could be a possible?

Thanks for all your help on this
Expat

[Northern Lass]

I found these two possibles?

1882...TAYLOR Joseph....FRENCH Louisa....Smethwick, St Paul ...Sandwell Register Office ...9/2/94
1886...TAYLOR Joseph....HADLEY Louisa....Rowley Regis, St Giles...Sandwell Register Office...18/6/472

Expat

have you put these for look ups?

do you want them looked up? is so add them

[expat66]

NL,
Yes, I think I will post them for lookup. I think I have some others too ( just haven't got my act together yet )

I will go through and add those I need

Thanks
Expat

[Northern Lass]

Ok do you need any more on this thread or can I archive?

[expat66]

Ok do you need any more on this thread or can I archive?

Ok to archive
.... I am concentrating my efforts on trying to get hold of birth certficate for William Taylor for now

thanks
Expat